i'm ann cervantes and i'm helping to organize unless some of the family businesses that own properties in the city help comply with the a.b.a. -- >> president laguana: ann. i'm so sorry. the public comment has to be on the agenda item. so the agenda item right now is we are welcoming commissioner carter. >> caller: i'm sorry. >> president laguana: if you would like to welcome commissioner carter. >> caller: congratulations, commissioner carter. i was out of turn. i thought it was at the beginning. my apologies. >> president laguana: no problem. is there any other public commentors? okay. seeing none. public comment is closed. commissioner carter, we're delighted to have you for the fifth time and next item, please. >> secretary: item four, resolution making findings to allow teleconference meetings under california government code section 54953e. this is a discussion and action item. >> president laguana: commissioners, are there any comments or questions on allowing teleconference meetings? is there any public comment on allowing teleconference meetings? >> secretary: there's not. >>

i'm ann cervantes and i'm helping to organize unless some of the family businesses that own properties in the city help comply with the a.b.a. -- >> president laguana: ann. i'm so sorry. the public comment has to be on the agenda item. so the agenda item right now is we are welcoming commissioner carter. >> caller: i'm sorry. >> president laguana: if you would like to welcome commissioner carter. >> caller: congratulations, commissioner carter. i was out of turn. i thought it was at the beginning. my apologies. >> president laguana: no problem. is there any other public commentors? okay. seeing none. public comment is closed. commissioner carter, we're delighted to have you for the fifth time and next item, please. >> secretary: item four, resolution making findings to allow teleconference meetings under california government code section 54953e. this is a discussion and action item. >> president laguana: commissioners, are there any comments or questions on allowing teleconference meetings? is there any public comment on allowing teleconference meetings? >> secretary: there's not. >>

i'm ann cervantes and i'm helping to organize unless some of the family businesses that own propertiesty help comply with the a.b.a. -- >> president laguana: ann. i'm so sorry. the public comment has to be on the agenda item. so the agenda item right now is we are welcoming commissioner carter. >> caller: i'm sorry. >> president laguana: if you would like to welcome commissioner carter. >> caller: congratulations, commissioner carter. i was out of turn. i thought it was at the beginning. my apologies. >> president laguana: no problem. is there any other public commentors? okay. seeing none. public comment is closed. commissioner carter, we're delighted to have you for the fifth time and next item, please. >> secretary: item four, resolution making findings to allow teleconference meetings under california government code section 54953e. this is a discussion and action item. >> president laguana: commissioners, are there any comments or questions on allowing teleconference meetings? is there any public comment on allowing teleconference meetings? >> secretary: there's not. >> president

. >> caller: my name is ann cervantes.the great thing of a small business owner, almost legacy business. i'm an architect here in san francisco. what i want to say to the rest of the commission is that you have a number of nonprofit organizations that deal with issue and it's unfortunate that they haven't been properly funded because you don't need much of a jump start to see results and such organizations because there are people within the community whether they be supervisors, a, they have a long history of working with violence in this city. so i just wanted to comment on that, but i also wanted to say, is that my background is somewhat we have to look at social accused architecture and planning and one of the one things that i read in college was oscar dumas defensible space and more activity you have in front of your space, the less crime you're going to have. so i always look to oscar newman designed in san francisco to provide defensible space. anyway. i wanted to comment on that. i was here for something else, but