was mary ann hovi's father, a congressman from rural virginia was the last congressman i would suggest that took heroic votes to make a difference in this country. now, he paid for it. pat jennings, is his name. [applause] >> in addition to the problem of patients being denied care in the first place, what tough to say about hospitals discharging patients with a serious mental illness when they still need care? >> you know, that, that's a big issue, you know? my son was hospitalized twice, and both times when he was first hospitalized, i visited him, and he was under the 48-hour order, and he said, dad, this is where i need to be. and i realize it now. they're getting my medicines straight, this is where i need to be. well, about six weeks later we were back in the very same situation. he was released within the 48 hours, and we had a problem. and we took, by the time we'd gone to the next hospital, you know, gus was one of the smartest people i've ever met, maybe the smartest. and he could figure things out, you know? there was no psychiatrist or psychologist he couldn't talk out of or into whatever he wanted to do. he knew what answers to give the evaluators. so that was one r