we also had the opportunity -- so we've celebrated ann kronenberg who was a pleasure to work with. mayor breed moved quickly and named her replacement. it's mary ellen carroll, who i've worked with and look forward to working with in an even closer capacity. she had begun her career with the department of public health, then went to the controller's office and for the last seven years has over seen disaster operations and planning for the p.u.c., so i think she's a great candidate, great selection, and myself and some of the command staff met with the two deputies, assistant deputy chief cochran and i met with her to offer our full support and give her an overview of how we operate and look forward to that relationship, which will be strengthened. on the 19th, which was last sunday -- and i was joined by commissioner alioto veronese, also had a couple of the assistant chiefs there, chief rivera and chief cochran, there was a great event that started a few years back. we were partnering with other fire agencies and it's all for awareness of cancer and cancer prevention in the fire s

the commission should -- as commissioner nakajo had said earlier, acknowledge the service of ann kronenberg who's been a servant to san francisco for 30 years -- i've known ann for at least 25 years when i worked with her husband in the d.a.'s office. he has since passed. he was a great man, but ann, also, is a wonderful lady and a great servant to this city, and it would be great if this city or the commission, perhaps, sent a letter to ann, acknowledging -- i know we spoke earlier, this may have been last year, about doing certificates of sorts, but -- from the commission, but at the very least, i think a letter to ann, thanking her for her service would be appropriate. secondly, i wanted to -- the stress unit needs to be -- stress unit, a resolution needs to be agendaized for a future meeting. i would also like to put on that list to calendar for a future meeting a future discussion on the housing issue. i know that as the commissioner covington had just mentioned to me, that because this issue is so important to the mayor's office and to the city, and would perhaps even come up in the -

>> yes, she'll be in charge of the d.e.m., the position that ann kronenberg is going to retire. >> i'md you mentioned ann cronenberg's name. all right. and then in terms of a question, this particular second alarm write up, who wrote this up, particularly? was this -- do you know what the author of this summary was? >> of the greater alarm summary second alarm, that was ken yee. >> commissioner nakajo: okay. it's interesting to the various cheefz, depending on the write up, it's interesting how comprehensive the write ups are depending on who the chief is. i believe i've never seen a write up written up by assistant chief ken yee, but depending on who it is, the details are very clear, so for those of us who don't respond to the fire, for the details, the clearer it is, for miself-it might take quite a skill level to maintain a memory of what occurs at the fire and then try to recapture that in a summary format. i would believe that's challenging. i think at some point, we had -- i don't want to use the privilege, but we had chief aides were, and they were the operators that drove the

work group which included the living wage coalition which continued meeting over a year with ann kronenberg with a health benefits program. >> okay. thank you very much. commissioners -- commissioner green? >> yes. i was wondering about dependent coverage, and how that affects your calculus, and how that affects the coverage of your employees. so what's been the discussion on that and how is that being approached? >> that's a good question. so currently, the hcao only governs individual coverage for the employees, and so dependant coverage, it has come up in our groups. unfortunately it's outside the scope of the minimum standards at this time, so we haven't -- we haven't been able to go really in depth on that, and so any changes to -- to the guidance on what these standards would be, what has to have a separate supervisors process, legislative process to amend the ordinance itself. >> is dependent coverage available through these various silver plans that you're offering? >> that would be up to the discretion of the employers themselves. to my understanding, some employers have worked wit