there to live with andrew simmons as and when that happens in the news, our journeyman else is jo ann nadler, a former conservative party staff are an author of to nice to be a tory joyce in a lie from westminster. miss saddler, thanks so much for joining us. i know the weather's been clements at the moment where you are. that good have you where the sky? just begin. where for international view as what you know about list trust in terms of her character and the style of government that shall lead. because that's very important for our viewers who will be seeing the british prime minister at many venues, at many meetings and shaking hands with many world leaders. they need to know who she is. but of course, she has been the foreign secretary and for a roundabout 18 months, 2 years now. so she's not completely unknown on the foreign stage. but she is really in many respects, are the polar opposites of the departing prime minister in terms of personality, in terms of character. he of course, or is a, as a huge and very charismatic kind of a person. and she is rather low key rugs, serious and s

here with me is former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire and former conservative adviserjo—anne nadlerbject because he wanted to see how— good easy subject because he wanted to see how she was going to react. and she _ to see how she was going to react. and she reacted really well. she is clearly— and she reacted really well. she is clearly briefed and takes it very seriously, — clearly briefed and takes it very seriously, unlike borisjohnson, who doesn't _ seriously, unlike borisjohnson, who doesn't go _ seriously, unlike borisjohnson, who doesn't go off into vaccines, because _ doesn't go off into vaccines, because she can't but what was so interesting — because she can't but what was so interesting about it was it was sheer— interesting about it was it was sheer ideology, so now he knows that he will _ sheer ideology, so now he knows that he will -- _ sheer ideology, so now he knows that he will -- is _ sheer ideology, so now he knows that he will —— is how she will answer and it's— he will —— is how she will answer and it's anything about lower taxes and it's anything about lower t