also saw him beat ann richard -- i also saw him beat ann richard who had been a friend of mine for 2060% approval rating and he won anyway because he understood that was about candidates, conditions, and culture, and not just what position you take on the issue. and he constructed a campaign that fit with where texas was at the time. you didn't have to dislike ann richards to vote for george bush. so he maximized the number of , people he could get. david: what do you think it takes for someone that wants to be president? i want to be like you, i want to be like you. mr. bush: humility. i think it is really important to know what you don't know and listen to people that do know what you don't know. mr. clinton: if you want to be president, realize it is about the people, not about you. and when it is over -- people who are arrogant in office have to remember time passes. ♪ ♪ david: how did the two of you so how did the two of you, -- david: so how did the two of you , come together to create the presidential leadership program? mr. bush: one of the real problems with these presidentia

didn't have anything to do -- you didn't have to dislike ann richards to vote for george bush. maximized the number of people he could get. david: what do you think it takes for someone that wants to be president? mr. bush: humility. i think it is really important to know what you don't know and listen to people that do know what you don't know. mr. clinton: if you want to be president, realize it is about the people, not about you. and when it is over -- people and when it is over -- people forget that time passes. ♪ ♪ david: how did the two of you come together to create the presidential leadership program? mr. bush: one of the real problems with these presidential centers is that they become a relevant pretty quickly unless there is something that captures people's attention. margaret spellings said we ought to think about using these platforms to call young people together and encourage them for -- through leadership education programs. it made a lot of sense. bill and i talked together. it fit right into our view of how to be useful. that is how it got started. and most pe

didn't have anything to do -- you didn't have to dislike ann richards to vote for george bush. maximized the number of people he could get. david: what do you think it takes for someone that wants to be president? i want to be like you, i want to be like you. mr. bush: humility. i think it is really important to know what you don't know and listen to people that do know what you don't know. mr. clinton: if you want to be president, realize it is about the people, not about you. and when it is over, that is what a lot of people forget, time passes. ♪ ♪ david: how did the two of you come together to create the presidential leadership program? mr. bush: one of the real problems with these presidential centers is that they become a -- become irrelevant pretty quickly unless there is something that captures people's attention. margaret spellings said we ought to think about using these platforms to call young people together and encourage them through leadership education programs. it made a lot of sense. bill and i talked together. it fit right into our view of how to be useful. th

when he ran for governor against ann richards. is a n't say ann richards cluts. he said i want to be governor because i want to do one, two, and three things. couple of them i didn't agree with, but he had an agenda. f you want to be president, realize, it's about the people, you. ut and when it's over -- that's what a lot of these people who arrogant in office, they forget, time passes and it more quickly than you know. say ant to be able to people are better off when i quit, kids have a better future, together. are coming you don't want to say, god, look the l the people i beat or people i walked over. i think the most important thing listen, to ble, to realize everybody has got a story. pres. bush: only thing you disagreed with in my platform to take texas ought arkansas. [laughter] i disagreed : what with is he wanted to get all our water and not pay very much money for it. it out for swapped texas oil, i told him, you know. [laughter] host: president clinton, president bush, i want to thank you for your service to and the leadership you've given to so many p

david: you decided to run for governor against incumbent ann richards.ther and father said you have no chance of winning. mr. bush: the father did not say that, the mother did. david: what did you say when you want? mr. bush: i said, are you going to come to the inauguration? you know my mother. you never pop off to her like that. she'll floor you. >> [laughter] david: when both of you became president, your father had been president -- your father had not been president, but had been in government. the first day you are in the oval office. you learn the nuclear codes, all the crises we may be getting into. what was the surprise that hit you? when did it hit you? the first day, the first month? mr. bush: truman said the most amazing thing about being you spend sothat much time convincing people -- , one of hised me me was that i was governor of a small state. so far removed from the hardcan people that it's for them to see you as a three-dimensional person. texas, iovernor of think you had a much more personal relationship. the lieutenant governor was a

it would have been difficult for me to have beaten ann richards in 1994 because i would've spent my timeng george h.w. bush. who had been in the last two years of his presidency. by losing, it enabled brother jeb and me to run on our own for governor in our respective states. i was sitting in the oval office at the desk, taking it all in, and in walks my dad and i said, welcome mr. president. and he said, thank you mr. president. david: was it like when your mother walked in the oval office for the first time and you are president of the united states? mr. clinton: she started laughing out loud. >> [laughter] ♪ david: both of you ran for congress and both lost. you have that in common. but after you lost the first time you were trying to beat an incumbent congressman and you lost. did you say, i am out of politics? what made you say --? mr. clinton: mr. bush: i got a break in a way. the democrats did well in 1974 because president nixon resigned. but i ran against a congressman who was one of his father's best friends. he had an 85% approval rating, and 99% name recognition. mr. bush: th

[laughter] david: when you decided to run for governor against incumbent ann richards, your mother andher said you have no chance of winning. mr. bush: the father did not say that, the mother did. [laughter] david: what did you say when you won? mr. bush: i said, are you going to come to the inauguration? [laughter] you know my mother. you never pop off to her like that. otherwise, she'll floor you. [laughter] david: when both of you became president, your father had been president, you had not had a father who had been president, but you had been around government. what was the biggest surprise? the first day you are in the oval office, you learn the nuclear codes, all the crises we may be getting into. what was the biggest surprise he -- you found, and when did it you that you were the president of the united states? the most powerful man in the world. when did it first hit you the first day, first week, the first month? mr. clinton: harry truman said what surprised me, you spend so much time trying to talk people to do things you should not have had to ask them to do in the first pl

it would have been difficult for me to have beaten ann richards in 1994 because i would've spent my time george h.w. bush. who had been in the last two years of his presidency. by losing, it enabled brother jeb and me to run on our own for governor in our respective states. i was sitting in the oval office at the desk, taking it all in, and in walks my dad and i said, welcome mr. president. and he said, thank you mr. president. david: was it like when your mother walked in the oval office for the first time and you are president of the united states? mr. clinton: she started laughing out loud. >> [laughter] mr. clinton: it was so ridiculous, that it could ever happen. ♪ david: both of you ran for congress and both lost. you have that in common. but after you lost the first time you were trying to beat an incumbent congressman and you lost. did you say, i am out of politics? what made you say -- mr. bush: i got a break, in a way. the democrats did well in 1974 because president nixon resigned. but i ran against a congressman who was one of his father's best friends. he had an 85% approval

ann richards was, you know, about as liberal democrat as you could get, right, at her moment, and bush, what is it about texas that both of them are so texan, you know? and i kind of love that about texas. you know, it's an outlaw state and they love anybody who speaks their mind. i remember being at a concert, at a willie nelson concert, and president bill clinton got up to introduce him at this concert. and as clinton stood up, half the audience booed so vehemently, and half the audience cheered so much. the two guys next to me actually got in a fistfight. (laughter) i mean they actually, they came to blows, right? and clinton just said just hold on, hold on, he kept staying stop applauding, stop booing for two seconds, let me say something. he said, this is exactly why i love willie nelson. (laughter) he said you guys can hate each other so much, and disagree so much, but still love blue eyes crying in the rain. - well, let's all just say that whatever our politics are we agree on chet baker, okay? - well, maybe. (laughter and applause) - hey, ethan, it's great to have you here. tha

it did not have anything to do -- you do not have to dislike ann richards to vote for george bush. he maximized the amount of people he could get. >> how did the two of you come together to create the presidential leadership program? former president bush: one of the problems with the centers is that they become irrelevant very quickly unless there is something that captures people's attention. they said we ought to think about using these platforms to call young people together and encourage them through a leadership education program. it makes a lot of sense. bill and i talked together and it fit into our view of how to be useful. that is how it got started. it made a lot of sense. most people focus their attention on libraries on the coast. this is a valuable resource for people in what we call the heartland. former president clinton: we talked to these young people. it is a nice thing to go to our libraries. we give speeches and everything. the thing they get the most out of is being with each other. one of the things that is wrong with america today, what bothers me about our

when he ran for governor against ann richards, he didn't say and n richards is a klutz. he said i want to be governor because i want to do 1, 2, 3 things. some i didn't agree with, but he had an agenda. if you want to be president, realize it is about the people, not about you. when it is over, and this is what a lot of arrogant people in office forget, time passes. it passes more quickly than you know. you want to be able to say, people are better off, kids have a better future, things are coming together. you don't want to say, god, look at all of the people i beat. or the people i walked over. the most important thing is to be humble, to listen to realize that everyone has a story. pres. bush: the only thing he disagreed with my platform is that texas ought to take arkansas. [laughter] pres. clinton: what i disagreed with is that he wanted to get all of our water and not pay very much money for it. [laughter] pres. clinton: i would have swapped it out for texas oil. [laughter] host: i want to thank you both for your service to our country and thank you for the leaders

and the destruction of the middle east that we created there with the iraq war just because like ann richardsaid on larry king that night. he said -- love war. they know how to make war. they make money off of war. and how much hate speeches were given then? i think it was 945 lies were given to the american people in the lead-up to the iraq war. and you know, this is like we're living in a space age fascist impar. we were given the patriots act, citizens united which i call corporate international weasels united. and to bribe money and the hate that goes with that. and then there's alec. we need to look into alec, what that has created, all the hate. but there's a lot to look at, lots to think about. but anyway, there's a lot to talk about here and i can't go into all of it. but thank you and have a good day. host: ok. ken is calling in from south carolina on our republican line. ken, do you think that protection of hate speech should be the same as the protection of other kinds of speech? caller: yes, i do. i think that you may not like it. you may think it's vile or anything else but you g

anne guerin with the washington post. thank you very much. >>> the white house said trump clearly denounced white nationalists, those groups heard a very different message. here's how richard spencer interpreted the words. >> today was more kumbaya nonsense. you can say racism is evil, we should all love one another. the sun should always shine seven days a week. everyone should be above average. everyone should be a wonderful athlete, everyone should love each other. it's silliness. it's not serious, and i don't think anyone takes it seriously, including the president. >> pastor darryl scott serves on president trump's national diversity coalition. pastor scott, it's lovely to see you. some people are saying the president was pressured politically to make that second statement yesterday. and that it looked forced? in your opinion, what did you think? >> i didn't think he was being pressured, i think he amended his original statement. when i first heard about it saturday, i made a statement on behalf of thedy versity coalition and myself, and i denounced all of the hate groups involved without specifying which ones there were. president trump did something similar to that,

richard spencer, said the president's comments for fair and down to earth. breitbart, president trump blasted reporters. >> president trump is telling the people the truth. the elite media hates it. >> reporter: ann coulter tweeting, president trump is the first person we've seen speaking the truth on tv in three days. the republican national committee praised the president. >> the president has condemned white supremacy many, many times. >> reporter: but many republicans are outraged. >> what trump did today was a moral disgrace. yes, there were bad guys on both sides. that's not the point. the ride began over a nazi riot. a nazi rally. and the only killing occurred by one of the pro-nazi, pro-kkk people. john mccain, mitt romney and paul ryan echoing similar messages. >> i can't believe it happened. >> reporter: some conservatives said it is possible to denounce bigotry and preserve history. do you feel your legacy is being hijacked by white supremacists? >> i think that's a fair statement. >> reporter: barry eisenhower has fought against removing charlottesville's statue of robert e. lee. what do you say to the people that argue it's become a symbol of white supremacy? >> that's a 21st century