>> i think probably anna cox was, really. >> reporter: anna cox, a blood-stain expert, testified that kevin's blood was not only on his mother but also on her bed cover. >> if he says he wasn't in the room, does your scientific finding deny that premise? >> yes. >> there's no question in your mind. science tells you he was in that room. >> yes. you had to be right next to the comforter. >> reporter: to the prosecutor, it was a home run, confirming bill kyne's story -- that he opened the door and saw kevin straddling the bed on top of diane. and, loughery argued, kevin's blood at the crime scene had to get there during a struggle with his mother or when bill pulled him off her. >> it put the lie to his story that he was not in there. >> there's no innocent explanation. >> reporter: and his broken glasses had been found in the bedroom, along with birkenstock sandals, one inside the room, one by the door. >> he was adamant they were not his sandals. >> yes. >> he never wore them. >> he actually says, "i've never seen them before." >> but what did science find? >> his dna was on 'em. so,

. >> for more on this, we're joined by anna marie cox. great to see you. you replied to bill crystal's tweet yesterday with this big one of us one of us one of us on top of it. i think we can show our viewers that obviously you may suggest. u are we seeing some sort of realignment because you're a republican or a conserve ifr or liberal, you have to hold true to all the ideas? >> it's what my pod cast is about. and on the sort of other side is strange because it includes people like me, preavowed leftists and apparently bill crystal. strange times make pore strange bed fellows, if i can use that term right now. and right now, i think, with you know, those of us who are fighting for decency and for the rule of law kind of need all the allies we can get. i am willing to fight alongside bill crystal. i would like to have a conversation with him about the cost of the iraq war, both financially and human costs. but he is someone who seems to be seen clearly or at least seeing my way on these things right now. well swibt -- >> i actually have hopes -- go ahead.

three of them on this context ok life for us and cox's bazar tanvir thank you very much anna neistat is senior director for research with amnesty international she joins us live from bangkok and we appreciate your time so the the findings in this report the language in this report is some of the most stark yet that has been used about what has been happening to their attention. and it's been difficult to get reporting out of there because of limited access this is been a two year investigation talk to me about how you all got access to get this information. as you said it was very moment just to go we did have access at some points north to all of the areas that we wanted to reach but we did conduct for field visits and interviewed hundreds of people in various parts of reckoning state and in addition we did very detailed legal analysis and this combination of facts collected on the ground and legal analysis allowed us to come to this conclusion that what is currently happening in has been happening in myanmar specifically in relation to amounts to the crimes against humanity of a pa