anna der veer smith took on the issue and joined us from san francisco, where she presented stage readingsnotes from the field, doing time in education - californian chapter", focussing on the school. you may recognise her, including "the west wing", and "nurse jacky." explain four latest work? >> so this idea of the school to prison pipeline is what you said clearly, which is the ways in which some discipline - some discipline practices in schools end you will putting kids on what is called the school to prison pipeline. data shows suspension, a certain number, increase the likelihood that kids end up in front of a judge, and the number of times they end in front of a judge is relevant to how long they stay in a cycle of incarceration. if a kid is not in school, they are in trouble. the chief justice of the supreme court of california, had a summit in anaheim last december in which they looked at truancy and looked at this. a lot of judges understand that the judicial system can't handle everything in front of them. from a lot of points of views, governors, teachers, parents, know that we