anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova typical ukraine about why in ukraine they constantly talkedut the difficult colonial past and cultivated the image of the victim. we will talk with our permanent expert historian alexander vasiliev. sasha good afternoon. hello in general in nationalist mythology, as a rule, but cultivates the image of the hero the image of success. and why in ukraine they suddenly started talking about the victim as the main content, well, ukrainian history, it seems to me that there is a whole range of factors, but one of them is that this image of the victim, it gives such a universal, well, or something , is there a moral induction for any action? well, here is an example of events. uh, in the thirtieth year in western ukraine, the region at that time was part of poland, so uh, the second commonwealth ruled there, and punks. yes it was di very tough authoritarian regime, uh obvious fascist even elements. that is, of course, ukrainians did not live well there . and so, it means, uh , ukrainian nationalists fought against him. yes, and olun. uh, just now, whi