anna eshoo has dropped to build on the sunshine piece. i think we can do more than that. we talk during talked during the discussion yesterday on other people were talking. anna and i had a side conversation about potentially working together on broader reforms. i think on spectrum we should be able to find some common ground. i think we would probably find common ground principles on usf. that man in be something the fcc handle so that we have legislation that we are working on. but i think there is a lot on the tech side. let's face it this is a controversial piece. this is the one that people on one side and one on the other. we did and asked for this fight. in fact 300 members of congress said don't do it. part of those words don't do title ii. but there are a lot of people that told the fcc at the end of last year don't. we want to operate in this sphere and they said no we are going ahead. even after the election what should have been some indicator that things have change. >> host:post cochairmen walden t would you like to see the fcc do when it comes to u.s. refor

and anna eshoo, who's a ranking member on your subcommittee, to upset the apple cart would be fooling around with something we shouldn't be fooling around with. >> guest: okay. so you want me to take chairman waxman's comments first probably. look, when it comes to the chairman's comments, we, we are -- you're in a situation -- i was a licensee, broadcast owner for 23 years -- 22 years. if commission came to me and said either do this pad thing or this less bad thing, you're probably going to try and work out the less bad thing. and i think that's what you would find if you parse through the statements from at&t and others, that they felt like they were in a box. they have their regulator, other deals pending, commission says we think we have this authority, we're going to do title i light regulation or, by the way, we've got this title ii proceeding open where we may treat you as a common carrier and really come down on you. club hanging up here. what are you going to do? you're going to reach an agreement for the lightest regulation possible. and once you've reached that agreement,