stay away from it. >> anna maria? >> my background is as a financial analyst following telecom for a very long time and so i have a very long memory of all of the disputes over access charge, settlement rates and international arena, all of that relative to that, i think what we've seen in the way of disputes around the internet in terms of disputes on transit are truly minimal and so i also come down on the side of saying, it is essential that everyone be able to interconnect but we have now several decades of history in the internet saying that private agreements can in fact, commercial agreements can get us there. and barring a breakdown, we really should not be intervening because the rigidity that regulations would bring to the system would probably create far more chaos than the occasional disputes that you have between parties. >> john. >> so, if i were to create an internet from scratch i could imagine cases where you would have problems, you would have market failure, particularly if some big providers had en

anna maria? do you want to go ahead?> i would be on the side of encouraging commercial agreements possibly by simply doing nothing about them which is the way they've evolved for a couple of decades. i mean, another piece of news recently was google saying they're going to be pairing with netflix settlement free. and i think it's lovely. one set of companies reached an arrangement that works for them. netflix itself was another company reached a different -- >> you're talking about google tyber in this case. >> yes, google fiber that works for them. i, you know, that's fine. i don't know -- i don't see any reason to intervene in that. and i think just one piece of data that is at least worth thinking about in this context which comes from netflix's own web site is the fact that they have the speed tests that they're showing around the globe, and there is no place on any isp that they run higher than four megabits per second. that includes google's gigabit fiber and fiber all over the scandinavia, etc. so i think before w

anna maria coke evacuations. georgetown, policy center and. -- cove evacuations. kovacs.start with a quick question for all of you. john just explained that interconnection with refers to the back end of internet. currently it is regulated it is by thousand thousands of these private and confidential agreements between network operators, most of which are so far, at least we understand are done even on a handshake basis. not a lot of them are even written down. i will ask each of you very quickly to give me your top line here. what role, if any do you think the fcc should be playing in regulating those agreements? i will start with kevin and go down the line. >> sure. i think he started us off exactly in the right place which interconnection is essential to all communication networks and essential to internet. i think it's a false dichotomy to suggest there is this internet world and which is this purely private nirvana and there is this communications world and there is heavily regulated area where the fcc decide on every agreement. that was a false dichotomy in the past

stay away from it. >> anna maria? >> my background is as a financial analyst following telecom for a very long time and so i have a very long memory of all of the disputes over access charge, settlement rates and international arena, all of that relative to that, i think what we've seen in the way of disputes around the internet in terms of disputes on transit are truly minimal and so i also come down on the side of saying, it is essential that everyone be able to interconnect but we have now several decades of history in the internet saying that private agreements can in fact, commercial agreements can get us there. and barring a breakdown, we really should not be intervening because the rigidity that regulations would bring to the system would probably create far more chaos than the occasional disputes that you have between parties. >> john. >> so, if i were to create an internet from scratch i could imagine cases where you would have problems, you would have market failure, particularly if some big providers had en

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