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so, anna palmer, there's your groups, the 139, the 56, and the 18. what do you make of this divide in the republican party, and how should we best understand it? >> i think the most important thing to understand is donald trump still controls the vast majority of house republicans. many of them were elected on his coattails. while there are a few that chose not to -- or to support impeachment -- a few that supported to remove marjorie taylor greene, the vast majority, the leadership, kevin mccarthy, are still donald trump republicans, and that informs the entire thinking of where the republican conference is going to go from here forward. >> david french, you work at a news organization that basically was created in the wake of trying to separate trump from the conservative movement. how much work do you have to do? >> a lot of work, but i'm optimistic that it's not as much work as people might think. i mean, look, here's the bottom line. i think there's another bucket here, and the bucket is the people who in a secret ballot voted to keep liz cheney

anna palmer, what does this mean as you understand it?e elected on president trump's coattails while there were a few who chose to support impeachment, a few that supported to remove marjorie taylor greene. the vast majority, the leadership, kevin mccarthy are still donald trump republicans, and that informs the entire thinking of where the republican conference is going to go from here forward. >> david french, you work at a news organization that basically was created in the wake of trying to separate trump from the conservative movement. how much work do you have to do? >> a lot of work, but i'm optimistic that it's not as much work as people might think. look, here's the bottom line. i think there is another bucket here, and the bucket is the people who, in a secret ballot, voted to keep liz cheney number 3 in the house. i think that's a very important number, and it's a number that's the large majority of the house gop. what we have going on right now is a very interesting dynamic where there is a layer of activists in the gop. you s

anna palmer founder of punch bowl news. former rnc chairman michael steal.rench, senior editor of "the dispatch." i'm going to let you guys decide these buckets of republicans and where you would put them in the party. we have all 211 republicans ong screen. these are the 139 that voted to overturn the election. the next group here is the 18 republicans who voted either to impeach president trump or remove greene from committees. finally, our third group here is the 56 republicans who did not vote for impeachment or remove gene, but also overturned overturning the election. anna pal never, there is your group, 139, the 56 and the 18. what do you make of this divide in the republican party and how should we pest understand it? >> i think the most important thing to understand is donald trump still controls the vast majority of house republicans. many of them were elected on his coattails, while there are a few that chose not support impeachment, a few that supported to remove marjoriemaj leadership, kevin mccarthy, are still donald trump republicans and that

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. >> all right, joining us now, co-founder of punch bowl news, anna palmer. anna, good morning to you! always great to see you. i actually want to start our conversation with the covid relief bill, because this decision from the parliamentarian, a pretty significant one. we know that this bill can't get out of the house if they don't include the minimum wage, so they're going to move forward with that version, but in some ways, this saves democrats some headaches, because now they don't have to try and get bernie sanders and joe manchin on the same page on this minimum wage issue. perhaps easier to bring everyone together. does it speed passage, potentially, this decision? and then, how are they going to grapple with the minimum wage issue in the future? >> march 14th is quickly approaching, so i actually do think for chuck schumer, it means less of a headache here because he can blame the parliamentarian for why this provision can't move forward in the senate. to your point, this is not going to be over any time soon. i think you're going to see minimum wage

errol lewis back with us and also joining us anna palmer the founder of punch bowl news.mportant day on capitol hill. this week there's a lot going on. the first congressional hearing into the insurrection at the capitol. we are going to hear from those law enforcement or quasi law enforcement officials many whom forced out of their jobs who will testify in public for the first time about what happened there and the security breakdowns. and i don't think this could come at a more important time because you are seeing a wave of revisionism among some republican senators ron johnson says it wasn't an armed insurrection and tucker carlson devoted a big chunk of it to saying it wasn't white supremacists. there was no armed insurrection. there is an effort to really, i think, suppress the memory of what happened. what are you looking for today? >> absolutely. i think you're right in the sense that there really -- some of the comments by senators like ron johnson have been so outside the reality of what actually happened. it has been pretty shocking frankly for those of us who

joining us now is anna palmer, the founder of bunch bowl news and laura coates, a former federal prosecutor. anna, tell what you say do we expect today? starts at 1:00 p.m. what do we know about what we'll see, who we'll hear from, et cetera? >> yeah. this is just really the set-up of the trial. right now there's going to be an agreement that there's going to vote on to basically move the trial originally trump's lawyer who an observant jew said can we not have this trial on a saturday. we're going to hold off. he rescinded that. this is basically just the table setting for the opening arguments which are going to start tomorrow. >> and the defense is making the case, laura, base on what they are framing as two constitutional questions. i find it interesting that they're framing it such as because i think the preponderance of scholarship there aren't these constitutional questions. the congressional research service says preponderance scholarship is a former official can be tried and. >> and have been. >> and has been, exactly. and the other argument they're making is that the president's f

also with us, anna palmer, founder of punchbowl news. good to see both of you. congressman greene met with leader kevin mccarthy last night. we were all watching. they went in, went out, went in. nothing definitive came out of that meeting. steny hoyer tweeted, if republicans won't do it, democrats will. is that going to put pressure on the republicans to act? what are we expecting to see out of the meeting in an hour and what's going to happen to marjorie taylor greene? >> it's been high drama on capitol hill as everybody's been trying to figure out what exactly her future is. kevin mccarthy, the leader of the house republicans, has been reluctant to make any move, any sort, and basically out of hope to compromise or broker a deal with steny hoyer that many kicked her off one panel, left her on another. democrats have said no to that which means they're going to move forward with this process. i can't say how dramatic and unusual it is. i've never heard of a majority party kicking off a minority member of a party. that's never happened that i've known. we've be

also with me today, jake sherman and anna palmer, cofounders of punch bowl news. kelly, i want to start talking about joe biden. how does he plan to take advantage of the spotlight. now that it's off impeachment? >> reporter: well it has been a strategic decision in a way to allow for impeachment to sort of evolve in its own news bubble and for joe biden just to wait it out. if you think of joe biden's long political career, waiting for his moment is something that's always been in his skill set. perhaps that's happening now. big things on the agenda this week. this will be the first time we see the president doing any domestic official travel. he will go to wisconsin for a televised town hall. he'll go to michigan for a visit to the pfizer vaccine plant to be able to see firsthand, reenforcing some of the things on his agenda, the larger package of covid relief where they are trying to get congress focused back from impeachment to policy, and also other things that have been on the agenda to deal with immigration, criminal justice reform, climate change, the whol

and anna palmer, founder of punchbowl news. ashley, let's begin with you. you heard the former president there complaining there about not having, quote, support at certain levels of the republican system. we saw that coming after the attack he leveled against mitch mcconnell. what could he mean by that? >> well, first, i think it's just important, again, to restate that the president is incorrect. the election was not stolen. he lost both the popular vote and he lost the electoral college which is how our nation chooses presidents. what he seems to mean by a lack of support is that there were not people, democratic or republican, who were willing to do his bidding and overturn the election results. subverting, you know, the will of the people in a free and fair democratic election. he could very well be referring to what happened in georgia. but in general, none of what he's saying is based in any sort of fact or reality. >> anna, i remember throughout the impeachment trial, the second one, one point his attorney, michael vanderveen was asked about whether

that's going to be something we're going to be watching very closely. >> anna palmer, phil rucker, thanky much. and according to senator ted cruz, people are obsessed over his trip to cancun. and he's got a theory why. >> i think the media is suffering from trump withdrawal where they've attacked trump every day for four years, they don't know what to do so they obsessed over my taking my girls to the beach. >> so is that how texans feel? but first, though, stunning and intense. dr. anthony fauci on the 500,000 and climbing deaths in the united states from coronavirus. ] [ birds chirping ] mondays, right? what? i said mondays, right? [ chuckles ] what about 'em? just trying to make conversation. switch to progressive and you can save hundreds. you know, like the sign says. ordinary tissues burn when theo blows. so dad bought puffs plus lotion, and you can save hundreds. and rescued his nose. with up to 50% more lotion puffs bring soothing softness and relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. at t-mobile, we have a plan built just for customers 55 and up. saving 50% vs. other carrier

joining me is anna palmer and former republican national committee chairman michael steele.ause you have all these state parties that are trying to firmly say that they are the party of donald trump and then at the same time you have the minority leader, the de facto leader of the republican party that's still elected. mitch mcconnell arguing in an op-ed that donald trump was morally responsible and practically responsible for the riot, the insurrection on january 6th. and basically trying to say he has no place in the republican party. anna, what's this like? how is this playing out? how is this affecting the happenings in congress? >> i think it underscores the total existential crisis the republican party is having right now. i don't think you're seeing much movement from those senators who did vote for impeach donald trump that are now being censured. they're sticking with what they said and their vote and their belief that he deserves to be impeached. i think the real question is going to come when it comes to 2022 and the candidates that run, what role does donald trum

george howell, anna palmer, chuck rosenberg, everybody thank you very much. >>> and as the republican party falss its post-trump reckoning, one of my next guests argues the party must be raised and rebuilt from the ground up saying, quote, the choice is binary and stark. if you don't believe in jewish space lasers, you can't vote for republicans. and if you love the old republican party, you can't have it back until you smash today's gop to smithereens. joining me now are two men who have written about the future of the grand ole party pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post." and writer for the bulwark. gentlemen, welcome. given what we were just hearing from anna, chuck, and garrett about how republicans don't want to anger these 76 million who voted for donald trump, what's your feeling about what you wrote -- >> 74 million. >> excuse me, 74. [ laughter ] sorry. >> so, look. i mean, i think if you step back, this is kind of predictable. the parties don't just generally decide to change and reform themselves unless they have suffered a terrible loss worse, frankly,

and anna palmer joins us this morning. president joe biden has approved a major disaster declaration for much of texas following the winter storm that left millions of people without power with freezing temperatures. grocery stores will be restocked now that road conditions are safe for deliveries. but this morning millions of texans still don't have access to safe or drinkable water. 3.5 million bottles of water have been distributed across the state. last week's major winter storm cost dozens of death in texas. a 69-year-old man was found dead inside his home. he didn't have electricity. his bedroom was 35 degrees when they found him. in abilene, authorities say a 60-year-old man was found dead in his home, as well as an 86-year-old woman whose daughter found her frozen in the backyard. and the family of 11-year-old cristian pavan is suing the power company after his mother found him dead in their freezing mobile home. he decide due to hypothermia after they lost power. what country is this? . >> these are headlines from

reed epstein with the "new york times" and anna palmer, founder and ceo of punch bowl news. a new d.c.-based news service created with politico veteran, and eugene robinson, pulitzer prize winning columnist for the "washington post." good evening to you all. anna, what just happened? your organization reported that members of the republican caucus gave the qanon congresswoman a standing ovation at close of her remarks. you saw mccarthy come out and pretend to mispronounce and not know what qanon is. the flags on the capitol lawn outside his office during the insurrection notwithstanding. in your view, what just happened? >> we're seeing the fight for the soul of the republican party play out in real time in the house. basically you had kevin mccarthy, leader of the house republicans, try to thread the needle and have it both ways. not only did he not denounce greene and her conspiracy theories and racism and other things she's said, but also supported representative cheney, facing almost sure voting out of leadership if he hadn't rallied the base behind her. he was able to lo

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joining me now, jake sherman and anna palmer co-authors of the book "the hill to die on." egin with anna here. both of you guys know capitol hill better than me. help me understand mcconnell's reasoning here. he had the power to do this trial before trump left office. he actually made a very powerful statement, you know, shortly after january 6th where he actually put the blame on president trump's feet back then. what was the purpose of his speech yesterday that seemingly contradicted the vote to acquit? >> i think he wanted to lay down a marker of what he thought about donald trump's behavior, that it was abhorrent, that it was not something that he supported and that the president was truly responsible for the january 6th insurrection. i would say i think his vote has a lot to do with where the republican conference was and the fact that the majority of the republican senators were not going to vote to impeach the president. he knows as a leader that he needed to be there with the conference. and so i think that's where -- this has a lot to do with that and the third poi

joinings now is anna palmer, founder of punch bowl news, also with us cnn political commentatorer errol mode? does he need to explain it or what's he trying to accomplish tonight? >> it's mostly a matter of reassurance and consolation. the country has been through and is the middle of great trauma, not just all of those dire situations that you just reported out of the midwest, but also the situation involving the economic recovery that has yet to really kick into gear. a lot of people are really hurting. a lot of people have yet to mourn their loved ones they lost to the pandemic. there's still a lot of anger out there not just about what happened on january 6th and the attempted coup, frankly, but also the fact that we have incompetent government response up until now. people have every right to ask, what have we seen over this last year as this pandemic struck and how can we do better. so joe biden has to explain what all this means and what the path forward is going to be, alisyn. >> to me this is the president's first chance since the inauguration to speak to the american people on

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eugene robinson, anna palmer, donnie deutsche, thank you all.hank you very well. today is mardi gras. so we are imagining a very different type of celebration in this pandemic. how is it looking down there? . >> i'm going to put on my scarf and i'm going to go out. it is getting sunny. the sun is just starting to rise. people are walking past the balcony here on royal street. the bars are closed. the mayor was very strict, and that was a good thing. she said no bars open for mardi gras day. we don't want people to get drunk and crowded and spreading the new variants. people have picked up a new tradition, which is they are decorating their houses like floats. and you go up and down and there may be 3,000 of them, beautiful homes, with music-themed floats, neville brothers on them, food-themed floats with the late great leah chase. everybody is walking around the french quarter in order to just see how people have turned their homes into house floats. so it's always creative down here even in the time of the plague. >> awesome. all right. walter,

anna palmer, founder and ceo of punch bowl news, former republican congressman david jolly, eugene robinson" pulitzer prize winning columnist is back and claire is still around with us. ana palm e let me start with you on whether or not you're hearing there will be anything unexpected. at this point, kevin mccarthy seems to be projecting everyone will fall in line behind greene. >> i don't expect there to be any shift among republicans to all of a sudden move towards the democrats and vote with them to remove her from the committee. basically, kevin mccarthy has rallied the troops. he's said that this is an overreach by democrats, that the congresswoman has apologized. today, she acknowledged on the house floor that 9/11 did actually, indeed happen. but there hasn't been a lot of remorse there. and so, i think you have republicans trying to just coalesce, stay together, and frankly, for democrats, that's a big political win. they would love nothing more than in 2022 to campaign against qanon and the marjorie taylor greenes of the world and feel like that would put them in a very good positi

joining our conversation is anna palmer ceo and founder of punch bowl news. donna edwards is here.eague jake about some of the reaction in the earliest days of the metal detectors set up there. i don't know if it's specifically this one incident but he described some members getting physical at the sort of audacity of having to be subjected as members to metal detectors. can you just step back and explain why that's even controversial in the wake of the january 6th insurrection. >> i think this has a lot to do with the fact that members for a long time are treated differently than you or me. they are driven around. they rarely if ever have to go through security to get in the capitol, unlike a reporter, unlike somebody who will be visiting the capitol to go to a meeting. we all have to go through the mag nominators. to get thu. this is a reaction speaker pelosi had after the insurrection because there was fear that republicans and statements that they were going to be carrying firearms. and republicans in particular really chaffed against this. the member you are speak something ab