anna palmer, jonathan carl, neal katyal. greatly appreciate you starting us off as our first guest in the new week. coming up for, us yes, there is a cycle of violence in the middle east. but this outburst of violence seems different including the escalation of the air war back and forth. in a moment, we're going to go to tel aviv and talk to a journalist that's just about cover them all. and later, there is a sham recount underway in arizona. some republicans believe it's real, other republicans and had the courage to rise up and say enough. we'll cover all of it as the 11th hour is just getting underway on this monday night. on this monday night. when it's hot outside your car is like a sauna steaming up lingering odors. febreze car vent clips stop hot car stench with up to 30 days of freshness. get relief with febreze. ♪ the light. ♪ it comes from within. it drives you. and it guides you. to shine your brightest. ♪ as you charge ahead. illuminating the way forward. a light maker. recognizing that the impact you make comes

and anna palmer, as you listen to that, you can't help but think who else is with her. really in their hearts. most of them are going to vote against her at 9:00 a.m. this morning. knock her out of her leadership position. but i think part of the reason they didn't want to hear that message is because they know that she's right but they can't afford to come out and say it in public and dare cross donald trump, despite the fact that what she's standing up for is a free and fair election. saying that it was not stolen. joe biden is president. and donald trump is lying to you. >> yeah. i think she gives voice to where a lot of actual house republicans are when they talk privately to you they don't agree with what the former president is doing. but i think there's two calculations that house republicans have made. they're making the point that, one, in the short-term it is not good for them and their individual political gains to go up against this president. there's a real fear of the fact that donald trump might support primary challenger. and the second is that her speak

anna palmer, veteran journalist, founder and ceo of punch bowl news, a d.c.-based service covering congress, created with jake sherman. jonathan karl with us, longtime white house correspondent. book "front row at trump show" now out, and neal katyal is back with us. during the obama administration, argued dozens of cases before the u.s. supreme court. john because of your beat, like to begin with you. it is hard to argue with the progress that's been made on the virus and then along comes a foreign policy test from israel, a way of saying to the obama white house, welcome to the presidency. >> no question, i mean you can get -- relish in the progress that has been made on what was the number one priority coming in for joe biden, getting control of the pandemic. looks like we're well on the way to that. of course presidents deal with incoming. and this is a really difficult time for biden to be facing this crisis in the middle east. he has essentially been the face or one of the most prominent faces of democratic foreign policy for decades. during most of tha

joining me now, is anna palmer, a msnbc contributor. , anna. normally, when i hear about a competing set of negotiations from one that has been going on for a while, it usually suggests that things are starting to splinter and that it doesn't necessarily look good. but in this case, the fact that joe manchin is in this group with these other republicans is pretty interesting to me. it also sends me the signal that he may want to continue these negotiations for a little while past memorial day which was kind of their previous deadline. what is your read on what is going on here? >> yeah, we got negotiations on negotiations happening. i think it's a couple of things. i think the zoom-out look here which is basically, one, clearly, republicans want to stay in the mix here. they do not want these negotiations to end and democrats to just go it their own way which is basically i think both you and my reporting this past week, it seemed as those things were kind of hitting the end of the road here. i think the second part is that it does feel

garrett haake on capitol hill, anna palmer and jake sherman, founders of punchbowl news are with us andbara con stock -- [ phone ringing ] i'm sorry, who could be possibly calling me during my television show? garrett, let's start with you, is this a done deal? >> it certainly looks that way, the decision by kevin mccarthy to endorse elise stefanik, a role held by liz cheney at the moment, it was the coup de grace here. and she was back up for vote in february and now officially siding with with someone to take over if she actually loses it, it's hard to see if cheney can turn this around or even if that's what she's interested in. >> anna, a lot of people are watching saying what do we care? what is being third in line inhouse when you're the minority member? what happens, you can't stand behind kevin mccarthy at the podium anymore? why is this important? >> it's a big deal for house republicans because it matters because liz cheney was standing up to kevin mccarthy. she was saying, listen, donald trump is a bad actor. you should have been impeached. he incited the january 6th insurrec

it clearly is not working so far. >> anna palmer, congratulations, once again.>>> president trump's legal problems just got a lot more serious with the new york attorney general, joining a criminal investigation into his organization, our good friend ari melbourne joins me with his analysis on that. you're watching ayman mohyeldin reports. g ayman mohyeldin reports. a capsule a day visibly fades the dark spots away. new neutrogena® rapid tone repair 20 percent pure vitamin c. a serum so powerful dark spots don't stand a chance. see what i mean? neutrogena® think of what peanuts have given humanity! fuel for vast migrations! sustenance for mountaineering expeditions and long journeys across the world! but most importantly? they give us something to eat when we drink beer. planters. a nut above. nobody builds 5g like verizon builds 5g because we're the engineers they give us something to eat when we drink beer. who built the most reliable network in america. thousands of smarter towers, with the 5g coverage you need. broader spectrum for faster 5g speeds. next-gen

. >>> anna palmer, "new york times" correspondent luke broadwater who has reported extensively on thecapitol riots and capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell. luke, let's begin with you. let's play that exchange with connelly, who basically dodged questions about what the president asked him to do about overturning the election. watch. >> did you have conversations prior to january 6th with the president of the united states, urging you to question or overturn, or challenge the election results in 2020. >> when you ask me about communications with the president, i, as a lawyer, don't get to make the decision on whether i can reveal private conversations. other people make that decision. >> did you meet with the president at the white house on january 3rd? >> i did. >> so, rosen either didn't answer or deflected a number of questions. what do you think we should take away from that exchange? >> well, i guess there's two ways to view that. former acting attorney general is citing what he said was attorney/client privilege and didn't want to get into the details of certain convers

anna palmer who reported those remarks is with us now.is hold on the party. you look at poll after poll that shows this is very much donald trump's gop. this talk of a civil war, more on the sidelines it seems. do you think the message will have much weight? >> the republican party is not the party of paul ryan. it's outstanding when you think about how it has gone from him being a vice presidential nominee for the republicans to totally swinging toerting towars populism. more surprising he is weighing in. he hasn't been public about his views since leaving the washington. the fact that he is trolling the president very aggressively at these remarks later today is notable. just underscores the frustration that establishment republicans have with the future of the party. >> something i want to bring your attention to. i would think it would concern paul ryan. republicans are more likely than anyone else to believe in qanon conspiracy theories. we talked about this before. the number of people, the percentage of people who agreed that the u

joining us now, cofounder of punch bowl news, anna palmer. and i spent a lot of time in washington providing the truth. i don't know that i have ever seen anything like what we have seen from the republicans. their own house or building that one of my colleagues was barricaded there. one of the most terrifying days of her life and one of the most difficult days for many members of congress. i am blown away watching the very people whose institution was attacked saying, no, it never happened. >> it is pretty stunning when you put those clips together just how republicans are unwilling to actually take count of what is happening. i think this is why we are having such a hard time and members of congress are having a hard time putting together the commission which is supposed to come and be nonpartisan and say, what are the facts? what did actually happen when we look at the video and the first-hand accounts of members and reporters. it was clearly an insurrection and invasion and clearly a mob there to do harm. it was not as if they were there

. >> anna palmer, scott jennings, great to talk to both of you. fl. >> thanks, guys. >>> we do have this breaking news. just into cnn moments ago. we're learning that a federal grand jury indicted four former now minneapolis police officers for violating the civil rights of george floyd. >> let geese to our colleague who joins us this morning. omar, this is different from the criminal trial that chauvin was convicted in and the criminal trial coming up in august for the other three officers. what does this mean now? >> that's right. that's right, poppy and jim. so those are happening at the state level. these are new charges brought in by a federal grand jury from the district court of minnesota. these are federal civil rights charges that these four former minneapolis police officers are now facing specifically three counts of depravation of rights under the color of law. now chauvin faces three -- or two of those counts while officers king and tutao are facing. i want to get into the text of what this says. it gives insight for what this grand j

also analyst and former special agent with the fbi clint watts is here and anna palmer from punch bowl news. clint watts, i want to start with you on the fbi investigation which shows no signs sort of winding down and seem to be deeper into the groups of individuals. tell me what the new charges mean is going on in the inside. >> one of the challenges of all of this is premeditated. i know from my own research teams watching it online it looked planned in advance because they coordination the actions and what essentially was an assembly. just assembled in a location. what you see with the videos is different from the online space where you don't know where everyone is or who everyone is. you have video of someone saying let's take the capitol and specific and what they did. the other part is to connect it with the videos that show them particularly the proud boys breaking windows. assaulting law enforcement officers. shoving into the capitol. they were the first people there breaching the capitol and they really opened the way for everybody else to spill in so i think you got a pretty

we're going to talk about it all with nbc news correspondent garrett haake, msnbc contributor anna palmer, and nbc political analyst philip rutger. again, our apologies if we have to cut you off to go to the president and vice president. there were 35 republicans who went with mccarthy. you also had a back and forth with nancy pelosi about this. should the democrats have a backup plan if this tanks in the senate? >> reporter: they do. they don't want to get into it. i talked to these house republicans who voted in favor of the commission, and one of them, dustin johnson, put it to me fairly quickly. he said, look, we need to get to the bottom of what happened on january 6, and i would rather have an independent party do it than adam schiff be the one to do the work. that is the backup option for speaker pelosi and democrats. although she told me she would much rather go the bipartisan route because she wants people, mainly republicans, to engage with the commission's findings. but if the senate blocks the commission, pelosi has, at any time, the opportunity to charge any of her committee

. >> anna palmer, garrett haake, thank you for starting us off this hour. >> former attorney general bill barr helped guide his decision to not charge then president trump with obstruction at the end of the mueller investigation. in her ruling judge amy berman jackson sharply criticized barr, saying he was disingenuous about the process, a freedom of information lawsuit brought by a government transparency group that sought the 2019 memo but the doj refused to provide it, saying it represented the private advice of lawyers. barr could not immediately be reached for comment. joining me now, a law professor at nyu and nbc news legal analyst. also the author of "where law ends inside the mueller investigation." great to have you with us. based on judge jackson's ruling, what do you expect to see in this memo? >> well, this decision by judge jackson, who doesn't mince any words, is a bit of a bombshell in two ways. one, she -- it is not new to your audience that the attorney general misled the american public in his so-called four-page summary. what is new is that judge jackson has seen

the first time since the pandemic, cnn's phil mattingly, jonathan martin of the "new york times," anna palmerf punch bowl news and cnn's nia-malika henderson. all of us here are vaccinated. we're ready to go. thanks for being here this morning. what joe biden is trying to do, nia, is really not something to be taken lightly. we've had three decades, basically, of democrats and republicans operating under a model of the government is too big, we need to make the government smaller. democrats being afraid to make the government bigger, which is what they want to do philosophically. what does it matter that joe biden is trying to do this now? >> it matters because i think this giant sea change that we've seen with our politics and also where we are in this country. you have had for years, as you said, democrats not wanting to be seen as big government politicians but not wanting to be seen as tax and spend liberals. if you look at this in terms of the taxes, there's a lot of hike in terms of taxes and a lot of spending as well. he's also, i think, focusing on working class americans in a way tha

joining us now, founders of punchbowl news jake sherman and anna palmer. that sounds great.ollins has the right idea but she's one single republican. democrats need ten. where do they stand on that. >> i think it's going to be a very big uphill battle for chuck schumer to find those ten votes. democrats will be very hesitant to put a time frame susan collins is talking about saying just because they don't want it to go into an election year, but they want it to be done to the fullest except. but susan collins is just one member. i think getting to the big ten number will be very, very difficult. >> i want to share what republican roy blount of miss missouri said about all of this. >> i actually opposed the idea of a commission immediately from the very first because i think we'll start waiting for a commission, rather than moving forward with what we know we need to do now. there's a bipartisan effort in the senate with two committees to produce not only a report but also a number of recommendations and we should be able to do that in the first full week of june. >> can demo

. >> nbc's mike memoli is at the white house, garrett haake on capitol hill, jake sherman and anna palmer, cofounders of punchbowl news are here with us too. a lot of outreach and a lot of phone calls. any republicans answering on the other end of the line? >> of course, that's the big question, steph. we just saw president biden take off on marine one right behind me as he takes the show on the road, as they say. there's a two-track strategy going on from the white house here. the president on the road to southeast virginia today focusing on childcare and community college, key parts of that american family plan. later heading to louisiana, the deep red state, as he focuses on the traditional infrastructure of the american jobs plan. yes, for all of the public pressure they're trying to build on lawmakers, a furious round of phone calls, in-person meetings happening with senior staff, with the jobs cabinet as well as the president himself. we heard at the risk of the bipartisan horn some positive signs both from the president and from west virginia senator shelley moore capito, the repub

anna palmer is with us, the founder of punch bowl news. thank you both for being here.eigh ann, liz cheney is not going quietly. she's not actively whipping to keep her leadership post. where does this go from here? >> reporter: she's not. she realizes she's going to lose this battle. she's not going to be -- she's goes to lose her seat at republican conference chair. that's the number three position among house republicans. she's determined to fight the larger war. she has no plans to go away, to leave the republican party. she made that clear in an opinion piece in "the washington post" where she had a stinging rebuke of the direction where republicans are going right now. she writes in part that -- we must be brave enough to defend the basic principles that underpin and protect our freedom and our democratic process. i'm committed to doing that no matter what the short-term political consequences might be. while she doesn't -- isn't going to win the short-term battle, she's determined to be involved in the long-term. there is an heir apparent, representative stefanik

joining me now is anna palmer.ave a listen to house minority leader kevin mccarthy from thursday. >> i don't think so. >> any communication with the people who stormed capitol hill? >> until the senate, you don't wear a mask. in the house you have to wear a mask. the only difference is the speaker. she doesn't want to abide by the cdc rules. >> okay. there are two thins going on there. one, mccarthy talking about the january ofth commission and then the mask. the whole masks off for a moment. but, anna, he ended the press conference abruptly because someone asked him, hey, are you afraid of people finding out that some of your members were in communication with insurrectionists? how much is that kind of fear driving republican opposition? particularly house minority leader kevin mccarthy's opposition to the commission? >> i think republicans in general don't want to be talking about january. i think it's the loser of a topic for them in terms of going into the midterms and it's a truly political calculation when yo

let's bring in anna palmer, from the daily beast and matt lewis and correspondent for "the washington. i think that she's close to losing her job probably than she ever has been before. right now congress is on recess. but i would not be surprised if you see lawmakers in the house republican party call for a snap election and clearly over the last week a half we've seen house minority leader kevin mccarthy say he's not going to say -- stand in the way of that. i don't think you'll find any defenders. when you think at the house republican leadership they feel like she is not the messenger that they want right now and they're already looking to who could potentially replace here which we reported on in this morning's newsletter. >> matt lewis, it is laughable through the years looking at big spending republicans who are been setting record deficits, record debts, defining who real conservative is and who a real conservative is not. certainly these washington republicans have been anything but conservative through the years if you just look at deficits and the debt and how they have wre

and co-founder of punch bowl news anna palmer now an msnbc contributor, as well.you haven't been able to tell already. >> yes. >> so let's get into the news. the bill to create a bipartisan commission to investigate the january 6th capitol attack has passed the house, but faces an uphill battle in the senate. 35 house republicans went against party leadership to join all democrats in voting yes. "the washington post" framing it this way, quote, republican leaders are trying to sink the legislation. that would probably secret nigh former president donald trump's role in the riot and his conversations with republican lawmakers that day. here is how tim ryan of ohio put it on the house floor yesterday. >> to the other 90% of our friends on the other side of the aisle, holy cow, incoherence. no idea what you're talking about. benghazi, you guys chased the former secretary of state all over the country, spent millions of dollars. we have people scaling the capitol, hitting the capitol police with lead pipes across the head and we can't get bipartisanship? what else has