anna palmer, good morning to you. so far this bill has been all about the senate.looks like it is headed to the house. talk to me about the timeline for the reconciliation package piece of it. >> yeah. it could actually be as early as 4:00 a.m. that would be about the soonest the senate could vote. it appears they're going to speed toward that, although, we don't exactly know. we think the senate majority leader chuck shucer may say, let's try do this around 10:00 or 11:00 a.m. to your point, we've focused so much on the senate. but things are going to turn quickly to the house, and the politics there are very dicey for speaker nancy pelosi. they're at a very tight margin. and you're starting to see some of the letters and different factions in the house, whether it's the moderates or those who want to get things done. >> you had senator durbin calling that vote margin a challenge, but not wanting to weigh in on the speaker's strategy. you do have any sense how she moves forward? >> right now you're starting to see a divide or rear its head between the moderates an

weemt now is anna palmer founder and ceo of punch bowl news. msnbc contributor and best selling author of "the hill to die on, the battle for congress and future of trump's america." renae graham joining me, a associate editor for "the boston globe." thanks for being with us today. let me start with you, anna, this reporting, for those of us following closely what was happening january 6th what trump was up to and listened to the phone call with brad raffensperger in georgia, this is in news this week, every day we hear of concrete and specific empties to actually overturn the election results >> yeah it's a constant drip, right. to your point we've heard about it. there's been little pieces coming out here and there. but this week i think to your point is very accurate, that we are with hearing a -- much more concrete efforts that was systematic. trying to go forward and push forward. i think what's going to be -- what got my attention on capitol hill what's interesting is what does the january 6th commission and committee they are going to in

. >> joining me now are anna palmer, founder and c.e.o. l news, and eugene daniels, coauthor of politico's playbook and msnbc political contributor, two of the best people in washington to talk about this, what's happening. >>> okay, anna, when are we going to see the text of this bipartisan bill? >> i think it's still tb d. we have been hearing every day for the last several days that this bill was going to be out. we continue to hear that this morning with members saying they expect the legislative text later today. i do think it's going to come sooner rather than later, but when exactly it's going to drop is anybody's best guess. they've been still scrubbing the bill all weekend. staff has been working. we've been talking to them. i think this process is just, you know, it's a 2,000-plus page bill. so it's a little bit more complex than, say, just the typical kind of legislative language that we wait for in these types of things. >> eugene, what y'all hearing? you got a time -- you got a time on when this text is going to drop? >> we don

anna palmer, let me ask you about that.e in getting the eviction moratorium extended, she was lobbying the white house. but the progressives flexed their muscles, they claimed a victory. how does that shape the dynamic when we head to the fall and the reconciliation bill is center stage at the capitol? >> it's an important point because so often in our reporting a lot of lawmakers say, the progressive, the squad they don't know what they 'doing. they play this outside game, care about twitter wars but don't impact the legislation as it's happening on the ground. this was one of those instances where all of a sudden you see them use the outside game, get real results in the capitol. the question i think to your point, can they do this, is there another issue that will motivate them where there's unity, one, and two, where the leadership, speaker pelosi in particular, sees that she has to work with them and will go behind the scenes to excerpt that power, make the phone calls, find a way for the biden administration to get to

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. >> joining us now to talk about this punch bowl news founder anna palmer and associated press whiteter jonathan le mire. the coast of the rec sill bill is a particular concern to moderate democrats like west virginia senator joe manchin who is flexing on this a little bit and he said it's irresponsible to spend trillions of dollars more when the economy is overheating and new jersey congressman josh gottheimer had this to say on msnbc this morning. watch. >> i'm concerned about the size and scope of reconciliation package and i think we have to be cautious about that and -- and there's a way to do this in the right way, in a targeted way. i'm concerned to make sure that taxes don't go up and that we handle this appropriately, and i think there's a way to do that but it will take us working together to make that happen. >> there's no wiggle room, no room for error in the senate literally and a very slim majority in the house. walk us through what it will take to try and bring these moderates and progressive democrats together to support this bill. >> i mean, that's the big conundrum