anne applebaum is a pulitzer prize winning historian and staff writer at "the atlantic." she is the author of "red famine: stalin's war on ukraine." richard haass served as director of policy planning in the state department. richard, what the west and united states principally is trying to do is clearly some mixture of deterrents to keep the russians at bay and diplomacy. do you think the biden administration is getting this balance right? >> with the exception of the press conference this past week, fareed, i would say yes, what they've done is essentially said if you go in there will be an economic price to pay. second of all, we will give ukraine the means not to stop your invasion, but to raise the costs of it and certainly to raise the costs of any subsequent occupation. third, we will then, the united states and nato, reinforce other countries in nato, including poland. so what you're worried about, vladimir putin, is nato's reach, but we can increase that, but -- and it's an important but, as you say, fareed -- there is an off-ramp here. essentially the united sta

would be need to treat casualies joining us this morning is the pulitzer prize-winning historian, anne applebaum eastern europe. she's a staff writer for the atlantic and a senior fellow at the john hopkins school of advanced international studies. anne, good morning to you. thank you for being with us. there are always concerns when we're in this state, wooirting for something to happen, that certainly in the media, that we beat the drums of war. so i have to ask you, what's the diplomatic side to this? and is there way out? there are a number of people saying that putin is not really looking for war, he's looking to flex muscles and get concessions from the west. what's your take? >> you're absolutely right. there are divided views. including in kyiv. i was there awe if weeks ago and the views are about 50/50. there are people who believe that putin wants a war and there's a separate view that says this was a kind of bluff, an organized form of pressure from the very beginning that russia wants to flex its muscles, it wants to get some concessions out of the west, maybe it wants the americans

anne applebaum was a staff writer for the atlanta and a pulitzer prize-winning historian.so a senior fellow at the johns hopkins and a gore institute where she codirects a program on disinformation in e 21st century propaganda. i "washingtonod post" columnist for 15 years and a former member of the editorial board, she also covered the collapse of communism as the warsaw correspondent of "the economist" magazine. then we'll have mr. timothy snyder who is the levin professor of at yale university and a permanent fellow at the institute for human sciences in vienna. mr. snyders work has appeared in 40 linkages and has received a number of prizes including the foundation prize, the foundation for polish science prize in the social sciences, the dutch auschwitz committee award, and the prize in political thought. mr. snyder was a marshall scholar at oxford and holds state orders from estonia, lithuania and poland. i now will turn to professor anne applebaum for her remarks. >> thank you members of congress and ladies and gentlemen. all of us have on our minds and image of what

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. >> it is all hauntingly familiar to ann applebaum. she reports on autocratic leaders from hungary to turkey to poland. >> one of the strangest things for me in my career has been the sudden realization that these are exactly the kind of things that you see very often in other parts of the world. >> the number of countries where democracy is failing or autocracy growing is now the highest it has been since the end of the cold war. one reason why? >> during the cold war, the united states presented itself as the leader of the democratic camp. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> and that was something that bound together democrats and republicans. it was something that a lot of americans felt proud of. >> the global superpower promoted democracy abroad and proudly embraced it at home. but can america still be ronald reagan's shining city on a hill? >> there's nothing inevitable about american democracy. this is a fragile, fallible, complicated experiment. >> that experiment has faltered before. it's almost failed, only to return tr

. -- anne applebaum. our hope is that -- morely was the director of the initiative to reinvent government during the clinton administration. he is the co-author of three books on millennials and generational change. there is a lot to cover as we explore what makes young americans take. some 45% of the popular asian still growing is the subject of our discussion tonight. we will examine why politicos and others are studying them. let's get started. morely: thank you. i always introduce -- appreciate when people introduced me and tell them that i have been in federal government. it is my biggest failure in life. there you are. you can change what happened. i will be moderating a discussion on america's youngest voters. why they are a catalyst of change and targets of suppression. for that purpose i have the great pleasure of introducing you to our two speakers tonight who can tell you all you need to know about the subject and if they don't, you can ask questions of the q&a function thereon. after all that,