>> cory shockey and anne applebaum of "the atlantic." also french philosopher bernard levee on anti-semitism rearing its ugly head again and former harvard president on racism in america. >> but first, here's my take. when one thinks of america's greatest strengths, the kind of assets the world looks at with admiration and envy, america's elite universities would long have been at the top of the list, but the american public has been losing faith in these universities for good reason. three university presidents came under fire this week for their vague and indecisive answers when asked whether to call for the genocide of jews would violate their institution's codes of conduct, but to understand their performance, we have to understand the broad shift that has taken place at elite universities which have gone from being centers of excellence to institutions pushing political agendas. people sense the transformation, the share of young adults who said a college degree was very important fell from 74% in 2013 to just 41% in 2019. in 2018,

happens to this whole pivotal conflict when we come back. >>> and we are back with kori schake and ann applebaumann, you have an article on why trump will almost certainly abandon ukraine. and if he were lekked. there are people who feel other wise, he said things like this when he was campaigning the first time around. and he -- it doesn't mean anything. what gives you the sense that trump really does feel strongly enough here that he would pull the plug on ukraine and cut a deal with russia? >> so trump has told us that. when asked specifically about ukraine, he said i'll end the war in one day. that could only mean one thing. woe end the war by seeking to concede. not that that -- not that that would prevent the ukrainians from fighting. also he's made a number of comments over the years, over the decades about his lack of interest in european allies, about his discorn -- his scorn and disgust for nato. he once said i don't give a shift about nato to john bolton, his national security adviser. during his first term there were enough people around including bolton and mike pence and others who

anne applebaum joins me now to talk more about this. anne, thanks for joining us on this.ant folks to really get a sense of what it is that is being kind of put out there. you write this, in a second term, trump would be surrounded by people who either share his dislike of american security alliances, or don't know anything about them, and don't care. and many talk about john bolton, quote, the damage he did in his first term term was repairable. the damage in his second term would be irreparable. can you dig more into what it is that bolton told you here, anne? >> so, bolton and i were talking about nato. and we were talking about trump's attitude to european allies, asian allies, to american democratic allies around the world. trump feels no natural kinship with other democracies. he doesn't think of himself as the leader of the democratic world, like presidents before him, since at least the second world war have always done. he thinks of himself rather as a transactional figure. you know, he admires dictators. he preferred, he really enjoyed the time he spent with kim

i don't know. >> ann applebaum, thank you for joining us. we'll be right back with more news. >>> tonight, there's a new push in the u.s. senate to keep working to resolve the standoff over new u.s. military aid to ukraine. cnn's reporter is on capitol hill with details. melanie, update us on the negotiations and whether something might get passed before the holidays. >> reporter: chouck schumer decided to cope the senate in to get a deal on the border. he's hoping for a deal in principle by monday, and he's vowing to hold a vote on an aid package no matter what next week. wolf, there has been some signs of serious progress over the last 24 hours or so, with the white house now signaling that they are willing to make some significant concessions on the border. that has democratic negotiators like kyrsten sinema feeling more endo you remembered where they are in this process. but republican negotiators are skeptical they can finalize a deal next week, given where they are in the process. just listen. >> well, the fact that the white house is

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joining me now is anne applebaum. i want to get your comments on the last bit, because publicly, republicans behave as if anything donald trump wants is what they truly want. but behind the scenes, you have people like marco rubio who is very obedient to trump publicly working to make sure if he becomes president, he can't withdraw us from nato by himself. what do you make of that sort of duality? >> i think it's important to first take a step back and ask why this is important. and just to echo what fiona hill said. you know, the world is watching the u.s. and its allies in ukraine. are we able to stay together? can we stay united? will we keep behind ukraine? will we make sure ukraine doesn't lose? putin's press conference today was all about trying to prove that that wouldn't happen. he made dismissive comments about the west falling apart, so the deeper issue is there a collective west? do we believe in democracy, are we willing to support other democracies? i think actually, probably most republicans, certainly m

anne applebaum, your article is important. the whole magazine that comes out today, people should look at it. thank you very much. >>> disturbing new reports as air traffic controllers were drinking, sleeping and doing drugs on the job. we're going to bring you more ahead. >>> this just in to cnn, border talks hitting a major snag, keeping aid for israel and ukraine in limbo. we'll have the latest from the hill next. >>> this just in to cnn, senate negotiations about the border hitting a major snag as democrats claim republicans are pushing for policies that too closely resembled the house's immigration ball, hr 2, this crucial impasse in negotiations leaves aid to ukraine and israel that have been tied to the border in blimbo. lauren fox, good morning, this is not promising for what senators thought they could get done by the end of the year. >> reporter: yeah, and this has been a major sticking point for moving forward in the house or senate with ukraine aid. as you remember, the house speaker made very clear last week when

joining me is anne applebaum, and denver riggleman, who served as a republican congressman and is now an independent. anne, i want to start with you. we went through all these choices, stephen miller, kash patel, et cetera. one of the sort conceits is any of these people would have to go through a prosin the senate to be confirmed. i think that is quite a conceit to have. if donald trump is re-elected, that sort of process, process won't matter anymore. tell me if i'm wrong. >> now, he could make them acting secretaries of state or acting cabinet ministers. he might just skip the process altogether. and i should say, it's very common in other failing or democracies in trouble, for the second term of the would-be autocratic party to be much different and worse than the first. that's what happened in viktor orban's hungerary. after he lost an election and came back, he really created a one-party state, much in his way appointing loyalists. it's the second try after briefly being an officer, the experience of failure, they're much more likely to try again. it's an accurate analysis, some

"the atlantic's" anne applebaum, thank you very much. the magazine's special issue on a potential trump second term is online now. >>> still ahead, we continue leafing through the special issue of "the atlantic." david fromm will explain why trump would be criminal if he takes action in 2024. we'll be right back. 24 we'll be right back. whenever you're hungry, there's a deal on the subway app. buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it's gone on the subway app. ♪♪ ♪ today, my friend you did it, you did it, you did it... ♪ centrum silver is now clinically shown to support cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say, ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. with the freestyle libre 2 system, know your glucose level and where it's headed. no fingersticks needed. manage your diabetes with more confidence. freestyle libre 2. try it for free at freestylelibre.us are you still str

anne applebaum, a pulitzer prize-winning author, and expert on russia. >> i think that anything litvinenko doing that came close to the source of putin's personal wealth, would have been by far the most dangerous things that he could do. >> in addition to a possible motive, there was also the means. paul joyal says the fact that polonium was used to kill litvinenko, leaves little doubt as to who authorized the murder. >> so, does that mean it would have to be putin? it could've been someone else with access to -- ? >> come on, you're not going to engage and an active nuclear terror lower terrorism in downtown london without knowledge of the president. >> today we begin the open hearings into the inquiry into the death of alexander litvinenko. >> in january, 2015, a public inquiry opened in london. it was a victory for marina, who along with her attorneys, for an eight year legal battle to make it happen. on the opening day, her attorney argued the evidence leads to one disturbing conclusion. which litvinenko himself reached before he died. >> mr. litvinenko came to the awful awful realizat

joining us now, staff writer for the atlantic, ann applebaum. >> thank you for being with us.n as to how much longer the eu is going to put up with orban. first, i want to show you an article from the "new york times" today that talks about how vladimir putin is actually using boycotts to enrich himself and his allies. also the "wall street journal" editorial page talks about vladimir putin being one of the winners of the year. he write this is, it gives me no joy to declare vladimir putin geopolitical winner of the year. the war on ukraine continues to inflict massive damage on russia even as it slaughters blameless ukrainians. kyiv's much-wanted counteroffensive is stalled. mr. putin's economy has withstood western sanctions. american support is fracturing. he took an innocent "wall street journal" reporter prisoner. he has shown the cruel advantage of strategic patience that autocratic rule confers. i'm curious your response to mr. baker and his opinion and also if vladimir putin is in a much stronger position now than he was a year ago? >> first of all, he's in a strong po

"the atlantic's" anne applebaum, thank you very much. her piece part of the magazine's special issue on a potential trump second term is online now. >>> still ahead on "morning joe," we'll take a look at new polling from younger voters on next year's presidential election. >> this is obviously a key group. >> yes. >> right now, it seems more split than they have been in the past. if donald trump is to be defeated, those younger voters are going to need to move toward joe biden and the democratic party over the next year. john della volpe from harvard has the latest numbers. we'll go through them. >>> also ahead, house oversight committee chair james comer claims to have new bombshell evidence against hunter biden. we'll explain why it seems to be another dud. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. [coughing] copd isn't pretty. i'm out of breath, and often out of the picture. but this is my story. ( ♪♪ ) and with once-daily trelegy, it can still be beautiful. because with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler, trelegy keeps my airways ope

. >> you look at anne applebaum, a conservative. tom nichols, a conservative. go down the list.ay coppins, a conservative. so many of these people who probably voted republican in the majority of the elections throughout their lives. elise jordan, i would just guess you would be one of those, as well, like me. but when you look at a republican nominee, a potential republican nominee that's talked about terminating the constitution, he said, terminate the constitution, arrest political opponents using the justice department, assassinate generals that weren't sufficiently politically loyal to him, saying that he was going to take the fcc and bring it into the white house and he would decide what networks were on and what networks were not on. continuing talking about the leaders of comcast and treason. doesn't like joy reid? i'm not sure. maybe it's lawrence o'donnell that irks him. yeah, his answer is that as the next president of the united states, i'm going to try them for treason. this is, again, for me, it's just staggering that people that i know, people that i grew up with

. >> let's bring in staff writer for the atlantic you anne applebaum.angers of a potential second term for donald trump. it's titled trump will abandon nato. anne, think you so much for being with us. the new york times lead written by charlie savage, jonathan swan, and maggie haberman. it is much like a piece that the washington post has recently written, and also what is happening with the atlantic this month. you, jeffrey goldberg, so many others writing about the dangers of a second trump term, and again, this is all lifted straight from i believe it was your book in 2017. it seemed that all of your warnings appear to be taking shape in the form of donald trump's plans for a second term. >> i think people are suddenly realizing that trump is very likely to be the republican candidate, and i think that they're also realizing just about now that he is running on the explicitly anti constitutional platform. he is running as someone who would overthrow the constitution, who would undermine it, who would undermine the american civil service, maybe the mi