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cnn's matthew chance is back along with our other russia international experts evelyn farkas and anne applebaum alright, i want to start with you, evelyn, this was the largest prisoner swap since the cold war. a huge deal help us understand just how big of a feat this was what went in to get this complex deal over the finish line yeah. pamela, i mean, it really was as the white house said, a diplomatic feat is involved multiple countries the countries that were most critical, obviously germany, because germany had one of the prisoners, if not the prisoner that russia was most interested in. and germany had a principled position going in, which meant that the russians knew that they were going to have to give us a lot in order to get that prisoner and that's the murderer that ambassador flake mentioned the other druze, of course slovakia and poland, turkey, of course, facilitating the exit. all of these countries together what it meant was we were able to go to the russians and i don't know how it actually unfolded, but you can imagine the united states government, because because we have this o

read anne applebaum's book and read madeline albright's book and read what bernie sanders just said and it's kind of frightening where this is going. >> yeah. i know, and i'm -- i'm in 100% agreement here. i know joe biden was on cbs over the weekend. he was asked do you think there will be a peaceful transition of power afford the 2024 election and he said, no, if trump lose, there will not be, and i think they are like not hiding the ball here. trump has already laid the predicate for challenging the electorate results. in the house currently conservative lawmakers are trying to push legislation that would try to solve a problem that didn't exist, the problem of undocumented migrants to vote. can't to it, but that is too laying the predicate for challenging the result because it that legislation doesn't pass and donald trump loses the lawmakers will say, look, you didn't pass the bill to protect the vote, therefore, it was illegally won by kamala harris, so i do worry about what's happening -- what will happen in the post-election environment if trump loses, and i think we all should