for clues as to her character and there is no evidence, apart from her saying she would denigrate anne boleynat she was, largely she comes across, she was a woman of principles. she had moral courage. she was devout, she was gentle, she was kind, she was also submissive. indeed, and she put up with so much and died giving henry his only male child. she did, indeed. and though the marriage seems to have been happy. i am in no doubt that henry genuinely loved her. it‘s interesting that you talk about the sources because you are a historian of distinction, you are also writing fiction here. the third of your novels on the wives, obviously three more to come. do you go back to original sources for the fiction as well as for the history? yes, i do. in fact this series of novels was born out of new research i was doing. in 1991 i published a book, six wives of henry viii, and i have been updating and revising, basically re—researching and rewriting that. it is a long project. how would you describe the changes in scholarship that have come about, the new things that we know from recent scholarship?