host: anne douglas smith of the ohio state university to discuss efforts to address the national teacher shortage. they are lead effort -- authors of the book how do we get here? welcome to both the you. >> thank you for having us. host: can you start by telling meet your background in education and teaching? >> my background is in human resources. i did my training and public resource management. coming at it from a talent management perspective. host: douglas, you are at i will straight -- iowa state university. what about you? what is your background in education and teaching? >> i come through working with student services and academic affairs. i have a phd in university of wyoming. i have -- education resources, working with k-12 leadership and working with colleges. i have relationships between the community college and the k-12 environment to solve these issues we are faced with. there was a report in -- host: there was a report in the washington post saying it is hard to know how many classrooms are short of teachers because there is no national database. can you tell us what you