associated press national security editor anne gearan. >> host: hello. i am anne gearan. we are going to talk today about a new book, the dictators handbook which as i understand builds on work that both of you have time them over a number of years in some previous political science work. can you explain how the dictators handbook is different from your previous theory about how dictators and autocracies function differently than democracies and whom is this book primarily aimed? >> guest: well, the prior year work, academic worked, the logical political survival 500 page by the calculus there is no calculus in this book there is no statistics in this book there is not even alger burr in this book that is a difference. >> host: there is a little math, right? >> guest: this is a book aimed at intelligent politically interested audience, people who read "the new york times," "the wall street journal," the economist, people like that. the earlier work was aimed at the three other academics who want to read 150 pages of calculus. >> guest: that would be exactly fair. we have

i am the anne gearan.e are going to talk today about a new book, the dictators handbook which as long understand builds on work that both of you have done over a number of years in some previous political science work. can you explain how the handbook is different from your previous theories about how dictators and autocracies function differently than democracies and who is this book primarily gained? one >> guest: well, the prior work, academic work, the logical political survival its 500 page book that led 150 pages calculus. there is no calculus in this book. there's no statistics in this book does not even altar boy in this book. that's an important difference. >> host: there's a little math, it? well there's the politically interested audience to people who read quote "the new york times," the journal last, people like that, the earlier want to read 150 pages of calculus. is that your description? >> guest: we've tried here in which to translate different difficult material into some straightforward

. ♪ >> host: hello, i'm anne gearan.re going to talk about a new book, "the dictator's handbook," that i think builds on work that both of you have done in a number of years in some previous political science work. can you explain how "the dictators handbook" is different from previous theories how governments function differently than democracies, and to whom is this book primarily aimed? >> guest: well, the prior work, academic book, takes a survival, 500 page book and 100 pages of call cue louse. there's no statistics or algebra in this book. >> guest: there's a little math, there's a little math. >> guest: this is a book aimed at intelligent, politically interested audiences, people who read "wall street journal," "the economist," things like that. the other work is aimed at those who want to read 350 page description. >> guest: that's right. we tried to translate technical material into something easy to understand. our arguments are general and how political organizations, how religious organizations, how corporati