in the officer responsible for investigating you. host: from jackson, tennessee. on the independent line, though ahead -- go ahead. anne in jackson, tennessee, hello. let's go to a me from georgia on the democrats line. amy, good morning. caller: good morning. i think this is a very interesting conversation but a very familiar one. after these incidents in our country. , doing amr. johnson wonderful job of educating your audience about the history of racism in this country. but white people are at the center of this. the mantle ofe up educating themselves about the real history of racism in this country and how they benefit from it, there will not be any real change. we will be in this continuous cycle of outrage, the privity, marches, people advocating for change. but until white people start looking at themselves honestly in this country and having this conversation, asking them's -- asking themselves, things will not change. mr. johnson, what do you think about that? thank you. guest: we have been here before. but something is a little different. i hope this time. one, you look at the diversity of the crowds across

in the officer responsible for investigating you. host: from jackson, tennessee. on the independent line, though ahead -- go ahead. annejackson, tennessee, hello. let's go to a me from georgia on the democrats line. amy, good morning. caller: good morning. i think this is a very interesting conversation but a very familiar one. after these incidents in our country. , doing amr. johnson wonderful job of educating your audience about the history of racism in this country. but white people are at the center of this. the mantle ofe up educating themselves about the real history of racism in this country and how they benefit from it, there will not be any real change. we will be in this continuous cycle of outrage, the privity, marches, people advocating for change. but until white people start looking at themselves honestly in this country and having this conversation, asking them's -- asking themselves, things will not change. mr. johnson, what do you think about that? thank you. guest: we have been here before. but something is a little different. i hope this time. one, you look at the diversity of the crowds across the