her mom and dad, jim and anne kelly marveled at her commitment. >> she spent many, many hours traveling and many hours working overtime. >> reporter: but debbie hadn't found as much success in her personal life. she got married in her 20s, but it didn't work out. now in her 40s, and dedicated to her career, there was little time to look for the right guy. >> reporter: was it hard to date? >> it was hard for her to date. >> reporter: so in 2008 debbie took a new job that allowed her to focus a little more on her personal life. that's when she got serious about her tennis game. >> she was a little bit of a tiger. >> reporter: that's how she met this bunch, bette paese, soeurette shook-kelly, and ellen mitchell. >> she was not a big person. but all of her went up, and the hair would fly up, and she would smash that ball. >> reporter: what would she do when she would make that shot and -- and the opponent was not able to return it? >> turn around, get ready for the next point. >> reporter: so she was humble? >> very humble. >> extremely. >> reporter: the ladies clicked off the court too --

kelly anne and george conway.re, at some point, there will be not a donald trump presidency, you may want to leave the white house. how would i maximize my net worth. james, mary, that worked well for those guys. gosh, they are both friends of mine. she is conservative, he is liberal. they have made an industry out of their oddness of their marriage. she hated bill clinton, he loved bill clinton, those guys, i will be cynical enough to say, it is plausible, the story they invited was the first launch of the cable show they want to host, where they go after each other six years from now. >> the older i guess, the less i know about marriage and politics. >> she goes on this tirade about george, and says, it was off the record, right? knowing that that was not going to be off the record. the reporter said, we didn't establish that. >> she is an experienced press person. clearly, they had it all where they wanted to do this. >> sneaking in our last break, don't go anywhere. >>> it is time to broadcast my threat to bro

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kel kelly ann conway seemed to supbl sest -- >> it was my job to tell him every innuendo, fact, fiction>> she talks bute call she had with fellows how to handthal fallout should such a tape be released though no one had heard the alleged call at the time. >> katrina cursed and said he did it. did that happen? >> no. it sounds like she's writing a script for a movie. >> reporter: a snippet of what she says is a record ogof the conversation. >> i'm trying to find out at least the contects to help us maybe try to figure out a way to spin it. >> reporter: now a housing and urban development official says she had a conversation with trump about whether he had ever used the racial slur. >> i said have you ever thought of a time this may have happened and he said no. >> that's not true. >> i told him what you just said and it's depends on what scenario i'm talking about. and he said you put it to bed. >> he said it. he's embarrassed. >> acknowledged there were rumor but they were always being circulated by omarosa and her alum. and she was merely trying to play kate newman to move the discussi

. >>> when we come back, this is how kelly ann conway is trying to defend the president. >> he's an excellent some of the women out there on cable news every single day who are jealous or have no access or look at things through their own twitter feed and not through reality who would think otherwise. >> jealous? we'll talk about that next. kellyanne conway >>> defending president trump's treatment of women after he called omarosa a dog. she's also taking a swipe at women who are critical of the president. >> people trying to get away with saying donald trump is terrible to work with for women? and he's a sexist. why would i be standing here if i didn't think this man was doing great for all americans. if i felt he wasn't respectful toward women, he's an excellents boss to women. it's only some of the women out there on cable news. who are jealous. look at things thru through their own twitter feed and not their own reality. who would think otherwise >> i want to talk about this now with alex stewart. the author of gaslighting america. why we love it when trump lies to us. i just had a flash

. >>> when we come back, this is how kelly ann conway is trying to defend the president. >> he's an excellentit's only some of the women out there on cable news every single day who are jealous or have no access or look at things through their own twitter feed and not through reality who would think otherwise. >> jealous? we'll talk about that next. ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪ ♪ bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens ♪ ♪ brown paper packages tied up with strings ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪ ♪ ♪ plaque psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. tell y

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kelly anne conway was asked if the president still had confidence in the ag. she didn't answer that question on the white house lawn this morning. we are seeing a shift in terms of what we are hearing from some republican senators. what are you hearing? where do things stands for jeff sessions? >> when i talk to sources in the white house, they make it clear even though jeff sexes is pushing for the agenda, every time the president hears the name of jeff sessions, or sees him, he thinks about the recusal and the russian investigation and blames him for the cloud hanging over this administration with this ongoing mueller probe. he can't see past that. republicans have been trying to get the president not to take own actions before the mid-terms, because they know how explosive this would be. they are starting to basically real a iz the president is likely to make this decision at some point, so they're trying to massage the messaging around it and say the president deserves to have someone he has confidence n. and this is not a permanent post and a lot don't st

coe with kelly-anne, the first monday we took over, we put out a statement from then candidate trump,bout paul manafort, we referenced clinton cash. >> by your standard, it is that knowledge of the foreign offer of help? >> well, foreign offer of help, trying to do something like that. >> if donald trump knew about that he was in on treasonous behavior in your standard? >> no. if it hasn't been proven he knows anything about it. he denied knowing. >> you said there sia zero chance he didn't tell him. >> take michael cohen for michael cohen, right? you active to take -- you don't know what michael cohen's doing with federal authorities what deals he's cutting, what he's trying to do -- >> if a candidate knows about that in advance, are they part of treasonous behavior by your standard? >> i think you have to call into question, if somebody's actually out there trying to get information from foreign parties, you have to question that. >> if mueller could prove that about donald trump, that would concern you? >> it would definitely concern me, yes. the president's been pretty adamant he

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we are talking about ready giuliani and kelly anne conway, not the substance of what the president is search for the truth and rudy giuliani has a point. some people will say on twitter, kristian frazier is —— christian fraser is useless. i want to meet the one or two who say he is a world beater! it is an interpretation of the truth. christian, you are something else, man. good to see you back. two day holiday. a0 minutes in, it has gone off derails. back in the serious, as a lawyer, yes, you are trained to acetate the truth. —— ascertain the truth. a former us attorney in rudy giuliani, he should know better. to protect his client, the institution of the white house and the man he is there to serve. these distractions only continue what has been a too summer only continue what has been a too summer in washington, what is the truth, what is not the truth with the trump and magician? talking of homogenous, i looked at the president's twitter feed and he seems to have gone off on a stream... this gets to the truth issue. responding to the new york times, the white house's top lawyer sp

kelly anne conway couldn't identify a high ranking african mid-minstration that serves in trump's administration. when you deal a an administration with any people of color at the table to weigh in on these decision, talk about the issues that concern african-americans, you get these really hollow statements from sarah sanders about all the wonderful things that donald trump is doing for black people. black people don't feel at all that donald trump is working on our behalf. his criminal justice policies are abhorrent. they're not advancing any issues for people of color. this notion about these 700,000 jobs. i'm not an commitment although i have a degree in checks. i know economists are cringing when they hear donald trump talk about all of the jobs that he's created for african-americans in the way that he describes, disparaging remarks about president obama. so i would say to sarah sanders, get some black people in this white house. then we can have a real conversation about these inflammatory statements you continue to make, her boss makes about black people. >> brooke, just listening to tha

that was kelly anne, as you know, along with steve bannon and a whole host of other folks who were onboardlook, paul manafort, we primarily focused on the convention phase of this, did have a long track record of working with conventions and things like that. but i think one of the other things that i think kind of a little jumbled up in the media is that president trump and manafort weren't particularly close. i don't think that president trump really knew much all about paul manafort's background. these were not two men who would hang out, grab dinner or lunch or chat. >> but to the point the president constantly saying he hires the best, that seems to imply he knows who he's hiring. your argument seems to be, well, he didn't really know this guy even though he went on tv multiple times and talked about what a great guy he was. >> well, he got a mulligan in this one. >> but what's the one thing donald trump knew about paul manafort, which was that he worked for viktor yanukovych. that was basically his only client for years. and the fact that he worked for yanukovych, the pro-putin polit

she mentioned kellyanne on the tape and says she talked to kellyanne or kelly anne discussed this with the president of the united states and now he's tweeting at me, saying that he never said it, it's not in his vocabulary, when he discussed this on trump force one during the campaign. >> stepping back from the specifics of the tape. >> yes. >> the question with everything you're saying and you're coming forward, you were taping during the campaign. >> oh, yeah. >> there is this question about your credibility and the fact that you were kind of already tape things and working behind the scenes during the campaign. my father had an expression, you know, we can't hear you because your actions are speaking more loudly. why are people supposed to pay attention to what you're saying now when you're the kind of person who would be taping campaign press conferences -- or phone calls in the middle of the campaign? >> yes, i'm the kind of person who covers her own back. in trump world, everyone lies. everyone says one thing one day and they change their story the next day. i wanted to have thi

kelly anne conway and the president himself.e going into the midterm elections. we're not just combatting whether or not one is going on the left or the right. we're actually debating what his reality. how did we get here, richard? >> well, i'm going to say now the same thing i said after kellyanne conway first gave that interview. then i went on cnn shortly thereafter. i observed that this is part of a pattern that we say in the totalitarian political thought since karl schmidt was writing about how truth and law should revolve around the nation's state and not around democratic values. this notion that there is no such thing as objective truth is what lies at the heart of toe tal tearian regimes. we saw the left wing of academia and the critical theory and all that. those people had no influence outside of the academy. we see it coming back with a vengeance in the far right wing, in the republican party. we saw it in tortured memos during the bush administration. now, under president trump, with kellyanne conway and rudy giuli

administration will instead be represented by chief of staff john kelly, defense secretary james mattis, and national security adviser john bolton. anne-marie? >> laura podesta here in new york. thank you, laura. >>> ahead on "cbs this morning," john dickerson talks with former president jimmy carter about senator mccain's death and what it means for bipartisanship in washington. >>> and this morning, it is unclear if a preliminary deal between the trump administration and mexico to replace nafta is legal or if canada can be forced to take part in the new agreement. the president announced the deal yesterday. it focuses on new rules for the automotive industry. mr. trump suggested that he might leave canada out of the agreement. canada's nafta negotiator is flying to washington to try and restart talks. the president said he'd give canada a chance to enter the deal but threatens new taxes on canadian-made cars if negotiations fail. >> one way or the other, we have a deal with canada. it will either be a tariff on cars or it will be a negotiated deal. and frankly, a tariff on cars is a much easier way to go, but perhaps the other would

anne-marie? >> i bet. john schiumo here in new york. thanks a lot, john. >>> well, fired presidential adviser omarosa manigault-newman said she secretly recorded chief of staff john kelly firing her in the situation room. that would be a breach of security. part of that recording was played as she promoted her soon-to-be-released book. >> if we make this a friendly departure, we can all be -- you know, you can look at your time here in the white house as a year of service to the nation, and then you can go on without any type of difficulty in the future really tish to your reputation. >> manigault-newman said she recorded the conversation last december for her own protection and that she felt threatened. in a statement white house press secretary sarah sanders said the recording shows a blatant disregard for our national security. in her book manigault-newman attacks the president, claiming without evidence there are tapes of mr. trump using the "n" word during outtakes of the reality show, "the apprentice." >> donald trump is a con. he is truly a racist. once i heard it for myself, what i feared the most. >> before sunday's interview, the white house said the upcoming