new jersey assemblywoman annette quijano sponsored the bill. also here, sitting next to her, udi ofer, executive director of the aclu of new jersey. i want to quickly, though, point out governor chris christie says he will veto any bill that would establish licenses for people who cannot prove they are in this statement. in fact, the governor goes on to say that, if the bill ever reaches his desk, he will veto it immediately. your thoughts on the governor's statement? >> well, new jersey is not the first state to consider this legislation. there's already 12 other states, including the district of columbia, who have passed this legislation. >> but you know governor christie, perhaps better than i do -- he's not gonna let what other states do dictate what he should do in the state of new jersey. >> well, that's true, but the thing is, we should now, more than ever, bring hundreds of thousands of individuals out of the shadows. we need to know who is driving on the roadways and highways of new jersey. and let's be honest -- if we do nothing, we'l