he helped bridge them. >> so annie difranco, how does art inter sect with activism now? >> inextricably, as far as i'm concerned. and i hear what you're saying. there is so much diversity of purpose, and it's so much more complex these days to fight the good fight. but i'm hoping that that's a good thing. because there is certainly a diversity of need and perspective, and like pete was talking about, beware of the platform that is too big. there is so much powerful good change you can make in your community with people you know by reaching out to exactly what you can reach. so, you know, i plan to sort of try to carry pete's legacy in my own little way, and do that on a nightly basis at my shows or when i'm talking to people in interviews, and carry the work forward in incremental every day ways and not worry about changing everything all at once. >> john nichols, last year i was interviewing dolores vuerta, and i said isn't had a over when they were working with cesar chavez was working with the farm workers. she said, oh, absolutely not. it's every bit the same day, is