. >> hello, my name is annie fisherman. i teach in san francisco city college. what i want to say is it's not about addressing individuals but about the harm and policing and the poverty criminalized mental illness. so, we know that policing, that incarceration doesn't make our community safer. we know what does make our community safer, things like access to jobs and education at city college to affordable housing to opportunities to mental health treatment and community based services and that fill the infrastructure and the support and connectedness to community that drive incarceration and this increase in policing that really does destroy the thread and the community that are most impacted by them. to me that's what we should be spending those resources on and not increasing policing and not increasing incarceration. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker? >> hi, my name is irvin from the justice project. we know that the proposed increasing in policing is intimately tied to the jail expansion. he said that the jail will justify every new jail. we