those people who have vendors anoperators at national parks, they can't pay their rent.his is a crime perpetrated by severapeople. boehner, reid,nd president obama against the small guy out there because they can't get along. it is sgraceful. >> you know, larry, the markets really are hoping and betting that the will be a deal, because they reay went u when there s any sn of thawing in the talks between the white house and congress. >> that's right, brenda. well, to jonas' point, if the market sensed that a default was imminent and the cataclysm was upon us, they would have sold off dramatally. you would have seen armageddon in the bond market. you didn't see that. financials were resilient this week despite the challenging news. i think we recognize the fact that we started with a scary backdrop, a weak economy, and it's yet to reay grow. retail sales were slow in september and october well before this even happened. so we can't attribute all of those things to the fact that there's en a government shutdown. but certainly we know we'll be right back in this situation if