i've spoken about anorexic bulimia. i've spoken about losing custody of my daughter, which was really one of the most traumatic events of my life. so, depression and a lot of things, but i've never gone into the details of some of the challenges that i've had in my life, absolutely. and surprise. i did it because i wanted people to know that we, too, or i, too, have challenges and obstacles in life. >> and that you can bounce back. >> and that you can come through them on the other side and get stronger and smarter from those challenges, and i think that, at times, people have to go through the fire in order to be an amazing or extraordinary human being or an extraordinary life or have an extraordinary life. at the time, it wasn't so much fun, but... >> yeah, but now, when you look back on it, you realize that you were to overcome -- i mean, one incident where you discovered most of the money that you had saved was gone, that your -- i think it was your second husband... >> yes, it was. >> ...had really been basically s