and i write the chapter about his work up there but ansel adams was a major figure in opening peoples' consciousness to the beauty of our landscape and the need to save it for its aesthetic value. >> yeah. >> .and because it's the right thing to do, not just to look at land as something to extract from. >> did your publishers resist the.i mean these are.this is also.this is not a small book. the other book was not a small book. this is a..it's. >> no i think. >> .again it's an investment on the part of book publishers and an assumption that people out there are gonna gravitate to the story. >> it's a good question and. >> yeah. >> .when the theodore roosevelt book came out, the wilderness warrior, they were worried about the length but it did unbelievably well. it was a new york times top 10 bestseller. >> yeah. >> .and they -- you know it kept going and it's.it's just done incredibly well. so they trusted me on volume 2 that people do care about these issues, that and.and most people that are really into bird watching, nature hiking, the parks are very literate people, they're.and th