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anthat is when the debate began seriously, trying to untangle the differences of view about whether you if you see something going on that you could change, whether you should intervene or whether when you see something you don't like, whether you should shrug your solders and say well, there is nothing much we could do about that. >> rose: outline for us the differences in their opinion about the way economies and markets and governments operate. >> the beginning, they both started the same base really. they looked at the busess cycle. which and they both concluded that this business cycle went up and down and up and down throughout history and they wondered at provoked it. what made it go up. what made it come down. and they both decided that actually that should be the focus of their study. and keyneswas looking at it from a slightly different point of view. keynes had endured during the 1950s wide-- in britain and was irritated and said we're going to do something about this he was a man of practice, if you like. he was an interventionist just by nature. he want aid change to make t

we're going do the same thing anthat's why we're going to n this election. >> senator santorum, thank you. we'll see new new hampshire next week for t debate. >>> coming up, on new year's day, ron paul with a strong showing in the pls drawing fire from his republican rivals while mitt romneyets his sights on president obama. ho just four years ago pulled off asurprise come from behind win here. plus the preside and his team gearing up for the fight, as well. he's going to the important battleground state ofhio the day after the caucuses. it's a new year and a new campaign. we'll brk it all down with our political roundtable. joining us the des moines register's kathie obradovich. strategist mike murphy. davbrooks of "the new yor times." mark halperin of "time" magazine and nbc's andrea mitchell. we know why we're here. to give our war fighters every advantage. ♪ [ man ] to deliver technologies that anticipate the future, today. ♪ and help protect america, everywhere. from the battle space to cyberspace. [ female announcer ] around the globe, the people of boeing are working together.

a speech, i think, where actually sea vulnerable president with a really mediocre record at best anthat is puttg it charitably over three years, who is proposing this fairness doctrine. >> rose: fairness values. >> fairness value, to take doris's phrase. that is a double edged sword, fairness because the question becomes who gets to decide what exactly is fai does barack obama and the people we don't like in washington makthat desion for us or who exactly gets gets to make that dermination? and it gives republicans or any talented repuican a huge opening to say no the fundamental value is free om, freedom to compete, freedom to succeed, freedom to fail and the responsibilities that go -- that go with all of those things. i mean, there is a robust and good debate to be had with a competent republican opposition that can seize on some of these issues .. and if romney were a more nimble candidate he would be able to do that and take his experiences at bain, at the olympics, in private industry, and so forth, and turn them into much more aggressively a virtues, instead he has fumbled it eve

dramatized ): as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that no idol in the world really exists anthatod but one. >> narrator: decius was determined to be completely ruthless in persecuting those who refused to make public sacrifice. for the first time, ordinary christians were methodically rounded up. >> and the odd thing is it fails. the net effect of this is that a new cult of the martyrs appears in christianity which strengthens the church. ( crowd cheering in background ) >> narrator: but ironically, very few christians were willing to be martyred. >> many christians were not made of the kind of moral fiber of the people who went to their deaths as martyrs-- that they had been willing to recant the faith, to offer a pinch of incense to the emperor. >> christians were sort of taking to the hills. we know this from the so-called lapsus controversy. what do you do with those christians who took to the hills and saved their souls as opposed to standing their ground and dying as martyrs? >> all this made a grave problem for the church when the persecutions were over, because many of th