they want the boy, as you mentioned, australia is new. prime minister anthony albin, easy does appear to be much more sympathetic to julian situation than previous governments. but can i ask still, are they doing enough? i mean, what would you hope for them to do in addition to what's happening already? well, you know, i would hope i ring me up and say, can you go to the airport and pick up julie, but i mean, that's more practical. how other than that negotiations, diplomatic negotiations, always very private. and i'm not the sort of character to be involved as a builder. and so, you know, negotiating between 2 pieces of timber i can do with school negotiating with united states department of state b on calling mister jackson. julian has many supporters, as you've said, but he does also have critics. what do you say to his critics who say that he's brought this on him self by trying to avoid justice? that when swedish prosecutors wanted to question him on sexual assault charges? oh, you know, julian was in 7 and a half years in the embassy professor mills mills, a book outline he was