but whether casey anthony, even jerry sandusky, fundamentally those were who dun its. there was a -- the question, the issue was did this person do what they're accused of doing? that's not the case here. make no mistake about it, the entire trial was about the psychology of jodi arias. what was in her mind at the moment she killed because we know that she did kill. so all of this evidence has gone towards one thing. what was her state of mind at the time of the admitted killing. this is different from all the other cases we have been talking about, because ultimately the jury will decide whether jodi arias is number one credible, and number two, what was going on in her mind when she committed a killing that nobody disputes. and that's what this case is ultimately about. so with that being said, probably not a lot of surprises in this one. >> and we -- we're about 54 minutes by my math here from the verdict being read live here at the maricopa county superior courthouse here in downtown phoenix, arizona. i can only imagine what some of these jurors are going through.