ah and we're back with sculpture philosopher sir anthony gormley. anthony. when you do your installation, she does it amazing sculptures of all sizes and you say that this is to promote people to think to, to move. you do have a precise idea where you would want them to move probably. now when you say, for instance, i will go on doing as much as i can to make pieces that encourage people to think openly about what is possible for our spaces in the evolution of life. what is possible for our species in evolution of life? well, i think that we have to, 1st of all, reconsider what is, what is life and the renaissance had this notion of the man as the measurable things. and it's very clear from the work of everybody from love look through true ear wilson that we are totally embedded in the biosphere and the biosphere is entirely responsible for the extraordinary relationship of gases that our body totally depends on. if there was only 18 percent of oxygen in the air, or there was 25 percent the of our, our whole metabolism would not exist. the history of photosy

the suffering has already known the bear sculptor and philosopher anthony gormley, is sophie's guest to day on her visionary show was a fascinating chap when the british artist is in full flow, catch all that ah, now we have e cigarettes. i just heard that it was a healthy alternative to cigarettes, and do we trust tobacco companies with their message that these new products are actually going to reduce these sugar rich are making the tobacco at them to over tours? wanda mic no said you know born is and is a tease and new fresh is emerge. we don't have with terribly. we told the vaccine the whole world leads to take action and be ready is not until people are judgment. common crisis with we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each in their own way, but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is great, the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. yes ma'am. oh, oh, risky is that will you elisa? typical there's only 9 but already 8 university students that

well, today i sit down with the sculptor, intellectual and philosopher, sir anthony quirley. antony gormley. it's great to have you in our show today, lo fi too. so you to, well, we started out by saying that, you know, we're not like a program that specializes in art or sculpture. we go to see big visionaries from different fields just to pretty much talk about life. so hopefully that's what we're gonna do today. good news, i look forward. okay. so when i look at what you do, you aspire to make audiences really think white. not narrow but then you've.