there's been heavy damage to must refugee comes and hospitals next spring, and anthony livingston and sydney is an independent journalist, an officer of the palestine. the bar trinity was by somebody's jerusalem between 20162040 said let's talk about this military operation. we keep hearing this rhetoric from israel as the leaders of every how must members a deadline? how do ministry plan has been, translate this very emotive rhetoric into a very clear and achievable minute you objected somebody they want to white pop? how may i ask, what kind of a well, that's a good question. i mean, ultimately what has happened in the past and i suspect will happen even most of this time, is actually not particularly pinpoint targeting by carpet bombing neighborhoods being destroyed. i mean, i've been visiting gaza fees as a journalist and saying that neighborhoods test levels. and let's not forget that many of the how much leadership and learning gaza, they're not, they're spread out across the our well. and which is what i see will happen in the coming months, even beyond what's happening in java