[applause] >> others will join you in a minute. >> this years finalist for the j anthony lucas prizes awarded to for empire of pain. the secret history of the sackler dynasty. she is an author and staff writer at the new yorker. the judges right in their citation empire of pain is a revelatory look inside the rise of one of the most powerful and ruthless dynasties in america . indifference for the consequences of their actions is enabled by the astronomical wealth of purpose she opens which reporting and research and impressive depth, patrick writing weaves a wealth of facts and firsthand interviews and original documents into a harrowing and heartbreaking reading series. empire of pain is a searing portrait of a massivepublic health crisis . one of the most devastating in recent memory. as well as the ambition greed and insularity of the family at the center patrick be here with us tonight. [applause] mark linton history prizes awarded wannually to a work of history on any subject that best combined intellectual distinction with felicity of expression and carries $10,000 honorary gra

the j anthony lucas book price is book length work of narrative nonfiction topic of american social orrrn political concern t exemplifies the literary grace commitment to research and original reporting that characterize the distinguished work of the award's namesake. the price carries a 10,000 dollars honorarium. this year's judges, bruce tracy the chair, gus bruder, juliet, and thomas. thisis year's winner is author r journalist andrea elliott for her book invisible child. poverty survival and hope in an american city. andrea is an investigative reporter for the "new york times" and the recipient of a pulitzer prize at george polk award overseas press award and other honors. most importantly she is a graduate of columbia journalism school. the judge of citation reads, invisible child is a force of the reporting and meticulous and unflinching depiction of intergenerational american poverty. andrea elliott spent eight years following her subject, 11-year-old and her parents andi seven siblings. they were in and out of newark city, shelters, courts, schools, welfare offices and ultimately

anthony: started off with a bang. uh-huh. >> yeah. so this is right here, this is kiella, the younger sister of one of our characters, luca. "black-ish." so -- >> anthony: no. we weren't having that. >> this is a new junior -- but this is my first sex scene. it was super -- at first it was supposed to be me just kind of standing behind her and she's leaned over the sink. and then eventually they were like all right, marcus, we actually need you to, you know, thrust a little bit. we need to see a little hip action. i got stiff hips. i'm 22 but i'm not very flexible. but i was -- i did it. so here we are. [ applause ] >> anthony: is that how they do it nowadays? you keep the t-shirt on? >> so i actually had a discussion because i just saw on tiktok recently that girls don't find it attractive when a guy has his shirt on and no bottom on. it's called winnie the poohing. [ laughter ] >> anthony: yeah. >> and i was like a little -- i was a little irate after the fact when i found out that i was kind of humiliated on tv. >> anthony: well, i've just got to say this. if you're going to do it you need to go all the way. >> yeah. >>