anthony ruggiero, let me start with you. why do you believe now for this intermediate range test? >>> kim is looking to test to make sure these missiles work. so there is a technical reason and also a political reason. as you noted, noted they've been testing missiles sense september 2021, and there is no consequences for. only one set of sanctions which came earlier this month. so kim may have thought these missile tests were okay during the biden administration. >> schifrin: jenny, do you think this is a lack of consequences or north korea doing what it said it would do a year ago, which is going through a list of tests, including this one. >> i think there is a list of conditions for this. they set the goals for the economy and the missile program. the economic goals are not being met, and the military side is one area in which they can control and get some successes gens the plan, ahead of some big political meetings coming up. >> schifrin: i asked the senior official yesterday if they had the right policy, and they said, quote, "we believe we have the right approach," calling