joining us now, lieutenant colonel anthony schaffer for the center of advanced studies and the aught over the new book "censored by the pog" no less, operation dark heart, spy craft and special ops on the front lines of afghanistan and the path to victory. is there such a thing as a peace talk with a tribal network that the taliban is? >> you are talking about taliban being a tapestry. it is not the model of soviet threat, you deal with one thing, you deal with it all. you have the two networks which are equally violent and effective and we are talking right now, according to the public reports, talking to really the amullah omar element. frank lit largest but not everything. simply talking to the largest is not going to get you anywhere with the other ones. dylan, everybody has their own self-interests. this is tribal warfare. this goes back to the tenth century and done this time and time again that's why no one has been effectively able to go in there and whip a military conflict for thousands of years. >> it appropriate for a man like myself to go on television and say there are