at the bloomberg africa business and economics summit, bloomberg editor anthony squatting led a discussionrica's challenges and potential solutions. the africaabout rising narrative and we need to ask the question now is africa rising dead? what's going on? what can we expect? >> i used to say there were four drivers for africa rising. cycle, commodities for the other was politics and policies, urbanization and demographics could i think this cycle is gone. you now need the policies to address them. that is probably what you not getting in some of the places. this is really the key thing going forward -- the policies that governments will put in place to address that. i think the entrepreneurship is still there and we have everything to still have a very bright future in terms of business and development. antony: you've done a lot of research on the relationship between china and africa. economyhink the african in china -- are they doing anything to find new markets? >> we talk about headwinds and china is certainly an incredible gale force tailwind for the continent. something i've been l