congressman anthony wiener said it best. i think he was very honest, very upfront. he said this -- quote -- "extending this successful program to those between 55 and 64, a plan i proposed in july, would be the largest expansion of medicare in 44 years and would, perhaps, get us on the path to a single-payer model." well, the democratic end game on health care reform is crystal clear -- make as many americans as possible dependent on the federal government programs. democrats believe that by making millions of americans dependent on big-government programs on the backs of their grandchildren's future, they are taking a huge leap towards creating a permanent majority for themselves. why, it would be a natural constituency for them. let me tell you this. america is built on the spirit of self-reliance, not government handouts. poll after poll, especially the cnn poll which said that 61% of americans are now opposed to the bill and study after study is warning us that this is the wrong solution for our nation. this unknown bill, which continues to change by the day beh

already a compromise from the favored option that bernie sanders and others on the house side like anthony wienerote. so so we comp mindsed. -- conference mized. we have worked day in and day out for months to get a bill out that we believe serves the interest of the american people and we see it gunned down day-by-day by a few that want their personal whims. host: do you believe the superzort guest: we do believe there are other options. we are listening to not just dr. doom but others that say that a bill that actually serves the american people is the most important thing. you can do things to reconciliation. that you could not otherwise do. yes, that the senators that are using the threat of the filibuster not be given all of the power, and in fact sherry brown said it we have compromised enough. it is time for them to compromise. host: were howard deans comments helpful or hurtful to the health care debate guest: i think they were giving voice to millions of americans feeling frustration and to that extent it was absolutely helpful. we are hearing from members every day who feel they have lo