i think it makes a big difference. >> for anthony wilder who founded the company 19 years ago, the mostmportant difference might be the pride he takes in the team spirit fostered by this style of management. >> it has opened my wife and i up as partners in this business to not feeling like we're the sled dog ins the company. we don't have to drag around all these problems. we have a sense of accomplishment that that individual can actually show up and do his part of the job and the team gets the win. everyone gets the win. >> so is open book management right for your business? let's turn to this week's board of directors to ask them. somewhere a special guest today, jack stack is known as the father of open book management. he wrote the book "the great game of business," the ceo and founder of sfrksrc holdings, also been talking about open book management here at the inc. conference. we have norm as well, norm brodsky who joins us again. he is the author of the book "the in that case." of "the knack." >> i know you talk about this to companies all across the country. is it right for eve