how that works is instead of the antichrist being some demonic religious being, the antichrist for timothy mcveigh, militia groups, patriot groups, white supremacist groups, that's the united states government. and their idea is the antichrist is the attempt for the united states government to bypass the constitution and take away their rights. so what does he do? a dangerous thing in the secular apocalyptic theodicy- he says, "i can bring on armageddon, because after armageddon becomes paradise. i'll survive it, so i'll initiate it. how will i initiate it? i strike at the belly of the beast." and so he puts that bomb in the truck outside the building, and hundreds of innocent people die- who may or may not have believed in the apocalyptic myth, but armageddon came to them that day. >> see, this is an incredibly complex set of ideas that we're mixing together, but you know, you can begin to get the feel here, that okay, a religious apocalyptic theodicy- and we're not- you know, we can take revelation, but there's been many, many, many of them down through the ages. i mean, it's wonderful-

. >> the president of the united states an antichrist on tonight's show.hen fox news takes to task. >> he's the one with the most. >> we do not agree what the highest office of the land, the most important figure in the world going on comedy shows. >> we'll break down this new fox attack, another fox attack yet again, and in the studio today we have the producer and director of a film that takes the l.a. riotses and calls them the hip-hop riots. >> what happened is-- >> it's going to happen tonight. >> you know what time it is. it's go time. >> it's "the young turks." i just learned that walter cronkite's boat was called "the assignment." so when he was not there he was out on assignment. cenk uygur is on assignment. mitt romney won delaware, road rhode island. a huge night for mitt romney. this is what newt had to say. >> governor romney is not the nominee at this point. he cuss not have the majority of the delegates and i think it's a little bit presumptuous. there's a different between the frontrunner and the inevitable. he's mistaking the two. >> 12 ho

the absolute antichrist. they are fighting for civilization itself. what will come to an end of far side doesn't win this war. and that is one of thei .. that i think make meaningful negotiations impossible between 1814 in 1818. but there is always a few minutes here and veneer put on any kind of war. you know, look at the changing array of motives that were behind the u.s. war on iraq. you know first it was because saddam had allegedly weapons of mass destruction. whoops, they are fair. well, we're going to overthrow an evil to tater and install democracy in the heart of the arab world did you know, the motives keep changing, but there always could motives been cited. so i think the main thing is that you have to look behind, beyond what governments are saying and look at what the real things are that are driving the worst because they will always put some kind of humanitarian veneer on it at almost all times and places. >> with a little less than five minutes. >> it's been a really interesting panel. my question is i guess for ms. or nagorski. throu

. >> their website predicted an antichrist and declared war against laumpt. >> that is important.dence showed no such plan. these people were not dangerous. >> dismissed jurors said the same thing. >> i heard talk and talk and talk and no action. >> comparing it to stopping something like timothy mcva. >> imagine on the day before he blew up the federal building you caught timt thi with a truckload of fuel and fertilizer and you had him on tape saying i am going to blow up a federal building. do you wait until he strikes the match? i say no. >> could this case make folks worried about government interference more paranoid. >> they now have evidence and facts that will confirm to them that their paranoi ya is justified. >> at least one victory for the government in a case that otherwise collapsed. >> 100 year ace go the most luxurious ocean liner was ready to set sail and two weeks later it was at the bottom of the atlantic. a new museum celebrating one of the greatest triumphs and tragedies. >> overseas today, in west achry ka, the military officers are promising to re-insfat the

there was a marketing decision made by the mentors at nbc to create an msnbc the antibody or the antichrist or the antidote of fox news. >> bill: how is that affecting the entire operation? >> i think if you look at their hard news, i'm not going to defend nbc. if you look at their hard news operation, it is not the same as martin ba shear and larry o'donnell and ed and al sharpton. i think there is a distinction. >> bill: you think they can get away with it. >> i think they can get away with it as long as they have an audience. we are coming on the 20th anniversary of the rodney king decision. all white juriy in semivalley acquitted the cops who were seen clearly beating up rodney king. coming up on the 20th anniversary of that. the people could see in their own eyes. george zimmerman. a case flimsy case at best. this never should have been a murder 2 wrap. this was involuntary manslaughter at best. there was no depraved indifference. this was an accident. this is a perfect storm. >> bill: the evidence as it is -- but you don't know the evidence yet. >> bill, there is a situation here wher

there was a marketing decision made by the mentors at nbc to create an msnbc the antibody or the antichristthe antidote of fox news. >> bill: how is that affecting the entire operation? >> i think if you look at their hard news, i'm not going to defend nbc. if you look at their hard news operation, it is not the same as martin ba shear and larry o'donnell and ed and al sharpton. i think there is a distinction. >> bill: you think they can get away with it. >> i think they can get away with it as long as they have an audience. we are coming on the 20th anniversary of the rodney king decision. all white juriy in semivalley acquitted the cops who were seen clearly beating up rodney king. coming up on the 20th anniversary of that. the people could see in their own eyes. george zimmerman. a case flimsy case at best. this never should have been a murder 2 wrap. this was involuntary manslaughter at best. there was no depraved indifference. this was an accident. this is a perfect storm. >> bill: the evidence as it is -- but you don't know the evidence yet. >> bill, there is a situation here where ge

anyways he actually calls the way church and not just the antebellum church, but the white church the antichrist and he talks a lot about ranching, a sort of modern cross. i just wondered us because if you could address that issue, d.c. injustice, oppression and to what extent finally position or religious theological systems in some ways may not have been written for people like you. just that there's immensely important and alternates her face, which is a defense of the vulnerable, the week, the child, the dispossessed. and more broadly, the self that exists outside of power, money and status. all religions are at their purist on this site, unless i give this status was person. the secular world is a winner society. you know, we live in capitalist. capitalism rewards economic merit and demonstrable economic success. this is an immensely punishing ideology that leads to madness at its most extreme because only a fraction of the members of his playmates and even the members of the united states can ever live up to that ideology. under that ideology, a huge portion of the world citizen and americ

argument in many ways closing the white church, and not just the antebellum, but he called it the antichrist, and talked about lynching as the modern cross, and as we close, can you address the issue of justice, issue of oppression, and what extent finally a religious theological system can in some ways may not have been written for people like you and me. >> guest: look, i think there's something immensely important in a message which is there in all the the major faiths which is that defense of the vulnerable, the weak, the child, the dispossessed, and more broadly, the self that exists outside of power, money, and status. all religions are at their purist on the side of that, and on the side of the status list person. the secular world is a winner society. you know, we live in capitalism. capitalism rewards productivity and economic merit and demonstrable economic success. this is an immensely punishing ideology that the madness at its most extreme because only a fraction of the members of this map et, and even the members of the united states, can ever live up to that ideology. under tha

because of the antichrist they talks a lot about lynching as sort of our modern cross. i just wondered as we close at the address that issue of justice, the issue of oppression and to what extent finally religion, you know, religious theological systems may not have been written for people like you. >> there's something immensely important for something that is written, which is the defense of the vulnerable, the week, the child, the dispossessed and more broadly, the south that exists outside of power, money and status. all religions are at their purest on the side of god. in a way on this side of this data source person. the secular world is a winner society. you know, we live in capitalism. capitalism rewards economic merit and journalists about economic success. this is an immensely punishing ideology that leads to not as at its most extreme because only a fraction of the members of this planet and even the members of the united states can't have her live up to that ideology. under that ideology, a huge portion of the world and american citizens are losers and that