and natalia antilla, you've tried to write i think about the children of oligarchs, but it wasn't easyarchs, i mean, - i, you know, suspect that there is a lawyer listening to this conversation as well. - i mean, that's kathryn belton is a really great example - of the, you know, how hard it has been for her. _ i'm just going to change direction now because i want to pick up on something that we talked about a few weeks ago, which is the crackdown on russian backed tv channels and media in the uk and around the world. and as i introduce her at the beginning laura kially is tech correspondent at politico, based in paris. laura, it turns out that blocking russian news channels is not as simple as the eu would like. why not? well, first of all, it wasn't that easy legally, because it was a political decision to ban those media from the european soil. but it was unprecedented, so the first question that needed to be answered was what legal grounds do you use to forbid media organisations from broadcasting in europe? and of course, rt and sputnik are not your usual media organisation, but t