so, that's an example of, again, antimedia.e national enquirer" being legitimizy by the trump campaign or by bannon. he would work very closely with those kinds of news outlets or "news" outlets to get stories to bubble up from what i guess donald trump would call the swamps into mainstream discourse. >> congressman to you. you called steve bannon a good guy. there are some people who agree with you and many who disagree and say he is anti-semitic. they say that he pushes white nationalists and tries to normalize them through breitbart, through a media outlet like that. would you want steve bannon to advise you? >> i would not listen to any steve bannon, but i haven't seen any evidence that that's part of his agenda at all. and when you looked at what's happened to the trump campaign from the time he came on board to victory night on tuesday, everything that he has his fingerprints on has done very, very well. and i want to say this as a republican. you know, we didn't really like paul begal or james axle red or carville becaus