anton borkovsky at espresso. well, a couple of minutes ago we finished the conversation with oleksandr kraev, an international expert. and now vitaly portnikov, publicist, journalist, will join us. that vitaly is already with us, glory to ukraine, vitaly, glad to see, glory, congratulations, well, the key story is two, at least two so-called diplomatic tracks, that is, one track is related to the geneva format, and the second is related to the so-called, i don't know, moscow-beijing vision of the situation, and the key story, v in what way those diplomatic initiatives could be combined, combined, answer. we understand that there was an extremely important meeting between the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky and the president of turkey, recep tayyip erdogan, so we understand that we have mostly general public information, but it is possible that the president of turkey also gave some or other signals, so let's start now with the analysis of that , what is this great international diplomatic process, if it really has prospects. so to speak, somehow connect. we understand that the key story is our vision of what