you have the risk of accidents, and this gets back to what antonia juhasz was saying. they are rolling the dice, and it's just a matter of time. it was not so much an accident, but an accident waiting to happen, and so that's why really we need to be working together more than ever to make sure this doesn't happen again. we have to get rid of offshore drilling. >> [inaudible] [applause] >> i'm sorry, didn't mean to jump in, but i think more importantly, we have to get rid of our addiction to oil and the idea that all of us here use oil somehow today to get here. you may have flown on a plane to get here. i think that's one the reasons why people don't get emotional about this because they think i'll drive down to the coast so i can like fight the oil. wait a minute, i just drove in a car that used oil. no, it just how do you turn that around? that's the bottom line. as far as the, you know, the business and the fines, you know, the $20 billion is ridiculously low. i just was fined $200 for putting a ketchup bottle in a trash can that was not a recyclable can. that's a