commissinoner antonini: 25%. we have been through this with some other places that have special use districts. what is the rule about conformity? must they conform, per the code, to the special regard allowance -- special rear yard allowance of the special use district? >> the dolores' height special use district is one of the few that imposes -- the dolores heights special use district is one of the few that imposes that. as a planner who works in this neighborhood, i have had to build three rear-yard variances in the last 18 months. commissinoner antonini: it has been represented at the variants was granted earlier in this case and is still in effect. >> a variance was granted, yes. commissinoner antonini: i guess my final question is do we still do rear yard averaging? the project sponsor has said, "we are appropriate because we are averaging," which we have done in the past with mid-block open space. is it a question of how far out we are allowed to go? >> by code, it is not permitted in the special use distr

commissioner antonini: thank you. commissioner moore: i am good to get on a slippery slope, but i want to talk about condominium law. i have not seen the second owner as part of this discussion. in condominium law, your ownership goes from single line of property to single one of your property. however, all external spaces are part of the common area. having said that, the change in one part of the building needs support by the association, in this case formed by two parties. aside from being members of the association, and they are the association, or they have a management company. there is another element missing from this discussion aside from the comment i made relative to altering the building itself. i feel there is something missing. i do not see the other party here to support are not support this change. commissioner sugaya: aren't condominiums subdivided usually? >> it is unfair right. it is not a ground subdivision. commissioner sugaya: i would like to make an observation that this may be 47 square feet, b

commissioner antonini: know. no. i want -- no, i want to hear item 12 today for reasons i already stated, and that is that since they are discretionary reviews, it is quite possible, but depending on what is decided today, the other one could be withdrawn, and we may never hear the other discretionary review. commissioner borden: the hard thing here is that i feel like we should -- the preference should be to go forward. in other what -- we continue it. i personally express my frustration that one reason we continue it is we were hoping the supervisors and community and private sponsor would come to a resolution, and unfortunately, that was not able to be done. for whatever reason. so this is kind of the -- for a compromise strategy that has been devised at this point. i know it is not perfect. nor is it great. i think the supervisor is hoping that there is some sort of dialogue or things that can be done in the interim. i do not know if that is true. we still might be hearing this on may 12, but i'm hoping something

commissinoner antonini: may be the architect? why don't you show us what is happening. >> this is the photograph of the existing condition. we have a deck -- >> we are talking to the staff here. commissioner moore: i think they have clarified it. president olague: mr. smith, is this what you were describing? >> that is exactly what i was describing. commissinoner antonini: to continue, it sounds like that would give them less than they now have. i do not see what we are gaining with that. as far as the roof deck is concerned, i am not sure -- architecturally, i am not sure if it's what i see in the other pictures. but it is a right. it is something they can do. i am not sure if i necessarily want to remove that deck. commissioner sugaya: i am ok. vice president miguel: i would not want to remove the roof deck. i think it is perfectly compatible with the neighborhood and i see no problems with it at all. as far as an additional notch in the building, you are notching a deck. commissioner moore: we are nudging the building. vice pr

commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i don't want to dwell on the one part because 90-plus percent is going good, but going back to the cc&r's and making sure that neighbors and certainly neighborhoods that have those in place would have control over front yard uses and neighborhoods that don't should also have an appeal process. and this is not just for urban farming but total urban blight ordinance needs to be put in place because we have so many front yards that have been paved and have gravel and weeds and totally unsightly and compared to 50 years ago when they were all pristine and neat and clean and cars are park there had. and the same could happen if somebody with the best of purposes tried to grow something but wasn't kept up or the house was sold or rented and would be just as bad and i think we need to have an appeal process where neighbors can appeal the condition of the front of somebody's house and thoughs who are lucky enough to have a front yard to keep it up. and show a pride of o

. -- commissioner antonini:. vice president miguel: my daughter purchased a condo around the corner from that location last year, and although she has no children of that age -- her youngest is 22 -- talking to the neighbors, talking to others in her building and the adjacent buildings who do have young children, everything echoes exactly what we have heard here this afternoon, as well as the well-managed drop- off and pick-up. as commissioner gordon mentioned -- commissioner borden mentioned, the scarcity of good preschools in san francisco is becoming a real problem. i am glad to see this expansion. >> the motion is before you for approval. on that motion -- commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner borden: aye. vice president miguel: aye. commissioner moore: ye. president olague: aye. >> thank you, commissioners. that motion passed unanimously. you are now on item nine, for 2451 sacramento's street. >> the proposal before you is located on sacramento's street. it is a proposed amendment to rezone the subject pr

commissioner antonini: that is what i thought. i would loik that changed. >> it was our understanding out the gate we had certain language regarding inorganic fertilizers and pesticides and in our crafting the legislation we were warned of the following. >> good afternoon, commissioners. and dee ydiego is correct and w have an agricultural commission regulates the use of pesticides in the county. and as long as those are use according to the label which is a legal document for the use, that falls under my jurisdiction. commissioner antonini: could you tell me which would be the more stringent? >> which are more stringent? it depend on the label. that is why i brought the label. it depend. the label is a document that directs the user to use that material and it's not legal and there's different levels and toxicities of pesticides. and the label determines how toxic the pesticide is. >> the reason i ask the question is normally with state regulations the city could not set up it own regulations that were less stringent normally. th

. >> commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i'm confused. i'm looking at a-2 and a-4. i don't know if we should put those on the overhead but it looks like, i'm looking at the front elevation on a-2. and i soum there's a setback -- i assume there's a set back and now we're coming forward with the building? it doesn't show the setback on there. exactly. it is okay. we're looking -- we're looking further this and now of course we're coming forward as you could see in these -- in these plans. so, that is the first thing that was a little confusing. you look at that. the other thing was -- the d.r. requester said it was going to be all glass. it looks like the replacement structure seems to have -- you know, looks like french windows. four in a row. i'm for the sure what the surface is. it. i guess it is a stucco surface around it. it looks like it tends to match the rest of the building as much as i can tell. your -- then i guess basically what we're looking at, where they show the views for light and air, we're looking at the front of the building or the rear of the buil

commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: thank you for an excellent report. a lot of it is about the historical connections, how glen park connected to areas further to the east, alemany, mission, and it is now separated by the freeway and san jose avenues. i like a lot of the things you are proposing as far as the roundabout, connecting the church and bart, making it easier to get between the two. perhaps the end of san jose could become a city street, as is the case with octavia, king, dolores. that would slow the traffic down as people come through theire. i think that is really important. another thing, as we move forward with transit ideas, i think we need to be cognizant of the fact, with our light rail system, the way it exists today, we do not have a connection to the east from the j, k, or l linbe. the t line now ends at visitation valley. we need to look at a connection perhaps at geneva, and glen park moving through those neighborhoods to be able to connect. most of the people i've talked about this concept are very receptive to that, i am not sayi

commissioner antonini: this is looking at the manhattan. -- at the map. this is an important factor here. the handling of individuals around the structure, that is a separate issue from the antenna. it should be mentioned to the owners in the area. i am in support of this. commissioner miguel: i will support a motion on this. i would like to say to at&t and every other individual that can hear me that is involved in cell phones. they are probably one of the major scientific advances in recent years, without question. in putting together your coverage and your use of sulfites on transmission towers , all of you who comprise the least scientific group of people i have ever known in my life. you are confused, you are disorganized, and it seems to me that when these things come before us, you don't know what your talking about. you should be able to be able to run a computer program that can tell you what the coverage is for any area of the world including san francisco. you should know that going in. you should be able, if your transmission ability changes,

commissioner antonini: a couple of things, and i have a question on timing. a distinction needs to be made on transit first being discouraging auto use and using transit as opposed to not allowing residential parking. it will either be on the street or in a garage. they are two different things and the elements should be geared toward the discouragement of using the autos, but allowing them to have a place to put cars. and a question about density, i think it was raised somewhere. we want to hear a little bit more about what that really means. we are talking general terms, and i think it was said that where area plans call for, a lot of neighborhoods would be fearful that all of a sudden, they would find out it has four dwelling units next door instead of two. part of the density does not necessarily help the property values if it ceases to be a single family homes. the final thing is the emphasis, two things quickly. affordability is very important. but what i hear a lot of from people is not the price, but the junk that is being sold for the price. the cond

commissioner antonini: aye. president olague: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner borden: aye. >> commissioner sugaya is reduced. >> i would like to pass up some initial information submitted by the applicant. it is provided in your packet. you do have these materials before you. the case before you is located in an rh-2 district. lombarin general, there are cons that the project is not in keeping with the neighborhood character and that the project would adversely impact like to access, particularly to the rear yard and mid blocked open space. there are also concerns to a lack of parking at the project. the project sponsor is a musician, so there could be noise. some of the proposals include the removal of the fourth floor, and that the modern design would be more appropriate if the surrounding buildings were in a very architectural side. since requests by members of the public, the project has been modified not to require a parking variance. now, two spaces in tandem are being provided of the project. another revision occurred after the filing of the

commissioner antonini: aye. president olague: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner borden: aye. >> commissioner sugaya is reduced. >> i would like to pass up some initial information submitted by the applicant. it is provided in your packet. you do have these materials before you. the case before you is located in an rh-2 district. lombarin general, there are cons that the project is not in keeping with the neighborhood character and that the project would adversely impact like to access, particularly to the rear yard and mid blocked open space. there are

commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner borden: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. commissioner moore: aye. president olague: aye. >> the item is passed. your ad general public comment. -- you're at general public comment. >> i'm eric brooks with the sustainable green party working group. the three members of the public that are at home watching this on tv, i like to clarify. commissioner sugaya said earlier, what happened to hydrogen? it is not really fuel. you take either methane or water, those are the main substances. and you use electricity to divide that methane or water into the component parts to you get hydrogen as part of it for what you would call fuel. it is better to create that situation in the first place where you are splitting the water or the methane. it is better to look at hydrogen because it is called a hydrogen sell as a storage device or a battery. you are losing some of the energy. the only time you would want to use hydrogen to power the vehicles is when you want to make sure that a vehicle is reliable like a fire truck or an ambulance. and

commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner borden: aye. commissioner fong: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. commissioner miguel: no. president olague: aye. >> passes 5-2. commissioners, you are on item number nine. >> good afternoon, commissioners. the item before you is for a conditional use authorization, to confirm a space into a massge age center. nc3 zoning district. the proposal involves interior improvements to convert into a new shower room. there will be no expansion of the building envelopes. the proposed hours of operation are a 11:00 a.m., seven days a week. it was previously advertised by a beauty salon. the project sponsor intends to retain the same business name. the proposed establishment of the family-owned under that section of the planning cut. there have not received any letters or phone calls and opposition to the project. this concludes my presentation and i'll be happy to answer any questions. i believe an interpreter is representing them. president olague: project sponsor. >> my name is ken wong, i am here to transla

president olague: commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: a couple of interesting things that commissioner moore brings up. i don't know what our particular situation is with these window signs that are in vacant storefronts now, but there's a couple ways of looking at it and certainly it would be better to have that in my opinion than to have a storefront boarded up and covered with graffiti. part of the price might be we'll allow to you advertise as long as you maintain it and of course maybe a fee, i agree. i think that that might be a way to do it where part of the responsibility of the property owner or the advertiser, whomever pays it will be to take care of the building and maybe some kind of a fee. it may be something to look into. another interesting dilemma is the coca-cola sign in bernl heights mentioned by commissioner sugaya. you're dealing with something that might be art, i think this particular sign had been covered by asbestos siding until recently and the siding came off and many of these older signs

. >> commissioner antonini?missioner antonia d: -- commissioner antonini: we talked about not starting an item after 10:00, and this was abandoned along the way. it was never clearly stated. >> commissioner, this was never a role. -- rule. this is on the calendar every week, that we have the right to not call an item after 10:00. you can still do this. this is in existence. but we just do not do this. >> that i stand corrected. this has always been there but this was not carried out. we feel that we should rise to a level that this is time to -- time to -- timed, and we talk about thursday. the staff sometimes need time, and i am not certain how this -- we would allow for one of them to be away, or another one to work and this would give them more flexibility to cover the work load. this could be more concentrated, or will this be more spread out under a more gradual amount of time? this is something that i believe that we should consider. and getting the staff -- we will be able to spread the calendar a little

commissioner antonini: this is an ongoing process. we have to make sure that we do not leave people out in the cold. i think people have spent fishbowled in san francisco because what happens here is look at around the country. that is good and bad. fifth we take a reasonable study to study a comprehensive solution over a period of time, that is a good idea. this sends a message to people that we are maybe not in favor of electronic indications and other things that people will look at and make decisions and business decisions based upon our position. i think we have to take the middle ground, which is to approve the reasonable and compliant installations during the time this is being studied. i was going to make a motion to approve. we have a motion to approve this conditional use. >> commissioner sugaya. commissioner sugaya: i think is to not take d.r. a long time ago, another one of these antenna things, i asked for staff to try to work with the companies to get whatever their master planning efforts are at this point or were back

commissioner antonini? >> i wanted to add a possible analogy. i know you have probably thought about this, an urban area that has many of the elements you have in glen park, and that is the oakland area. you have a bart station, freeway. as you move north along college, passing claremont, generally it seems to be managed well. maybe i am not there at the worst traffic times, but it does seem to fit together fairly well. the one element that you have here that they do not is a second free with san jose avenue. that is the key because there is a divider there. it constricts everything into a narrow area where you have a bit more room to spread out. i think that would be one thing to look at. the calming of san jose, widening of sidewalks, making it easier for people to move on foot between these areas, i think, is key to solving the problems there. >> director? >> i just wanted to thank john and john and the community for their work. this has been a very focused and engaged community process. it has worked quite well. i just wanted to thank you fo

commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: interesting observations, predictably about tearing down the central freeway. actually, there have been a lot of freeways that have come down. on the surface that sounds like a great idea and it sounds like you and have less traffic, blachly san francisco is a conduit through which a lot of people travel -- but actually, san francisco is a conduit through which people travel. that is still part of the route that comes off the freeway. until we find another solution, i don't know we will be able to, because of the traffic will still come in many of them are passing through the neighborhood rather than actually stopping in the neighborhood. that is where most of the traffic comes from, the fact that we are geographically a conduit through which traffic must pass and that will probably always be that way. someday we will find a solution. i am not sure if it is the big day collected boston, but there has to be a way to get the cars through the city. another interest

commissinoner antonini: aye. 'commissioner fong: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. vice president miguel: aye. president olague: aye. >> the motion passes unanimously. [applause] commissioners, just for the record, i will restate that for item 12, case 2,010.0911d, the dr has been withdrawn and this matter is no longer required for your consideration. you are now on item 13, a case 2,010.0758d, for 454 greenwich street. president olague: i do not know if staff is here for this item. we will take a five minute recess while we are waiting for staff. that is probably the case. >> the commission is >> 454 greenwich street. >> good evening, planning staff. the project before you proposes that one-story horizontal extension to an existing partial third floor of a single family residential structure. it would expand 24 feet closer to the yen witch frontage, and would leave a setback to the front of the building. a new roof deck is proposed and would be situated on the roof of the newly configured third floor. an interior remodel, window rio window

commissioner antonini: the commissioner raises an interesting point, but, as we know from having been here for a while, there are many times when approvals that we have changed significantly at the board of supervisors,. certain parts of the legislation do have to go through the supervisors, as other agencies, so there is a procedure in place for this, and certainly, that will take precedent, i think. i would like to attend today's meeting in memory of gino samoli, a 1947 graduate of galileo and one of a long string of italian baseball players to come out of san francisco, and spent 10 years in the majors, had a couple of world series rings, but the most significant thing about his baseball career -- he was the first batter on the west coast for major league baseball. he was playing for the doctors at the time, and he stepped into the plate on april 15, 1915 -- 1958. i think he struck out, which is good for us because the giants were the home team. what is really significant is he went on for a career with ups after he finished his baseball career and was very active in the san franci

commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: thank you for an excellent report. a lot of it is about the st

commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner borden: aye. commissioner fong: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner miguel: aye. commissioner moore: aye. >> thank you, commissioners. [applause] president olague: we are going to take a ten minute break. i apologize to the folks that have been waiting for treasure island. but we need a break.

commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner borden: aye. commissioner fong: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner miguel: aye. commissioner moore: aye. >> thank you, commissioners. [applause] president olague: we are going to take a ten minute break. i apologize to the folks that have been waiting for treasure island. president olagu>> commissionersn item 16. the treasure island redevelopment project. >> i am a member of the planning staff. beginning the adoption process, tonight we will give you informational overview of the project. lee will give the revisions to the planning cut and zoning map -- we will give you revisions to the planning code and zoning map. the community facilities plan, the housing program, as well as other key project documents and redevelopment agreements. they also have a design review and document approval procedure. on april 7, the commission will hold a joint public hearing with the board of directors to consider the project's eir and entitlement documents. this will mark a major milestone for treasure island. the planning commiss

on approval, commissioner antonini? [calling votes] thank you, commissioners are reagan >> we closed the public hearing on the variants and would note that the requirement is a 27-foot maximum, but they could provide two individual ones, but that could be 22 feet for the loading. it would justify granting the variants. the decision is not final until the letter is issued. we will mail you a copy. it has an appeal window of 10 days to the of board of appeals. >> thank you. commissioners, you are now on your agenda item, and it is for the fiscal year budget and development and proposed approval of the budget for submission to the mayor's office. this is an action item. >> today we have the budget for our action, and i would say two words. last week we presented the proposed new budget. there is essentially no change for the current year, and we will get back tune about future funding for two large region back to you about future funding for two large projects that are not currently funded, but i will ask you to quickly go