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commission comments and questions. >> commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: thank you. i would like to think some excellent staff members for their excellent work. first, johnny, for the update on the downtown plan, which i think was extremely well-done. some of that has been mentioned in the press, a summary of the findings that were in that report, and i think that the emphasis on the fact that our downtown area is one of the finest in the country as far as being dense, walkable, and a well-served by transit is a very important. i think the only thing i would say, it is not negative, but just not to judge our conclusions for the future from what has happened in the last 20 to 30 years. the fact that there are fewer professional -- or at least the same number of professional managerial type positions and corporate jobs in the downtown area, surly that part north of market does not necessarily mean that is going to happen in the future. because this is such a great area, we're seeing more and more of the employees of bay area businesses living in san francisco, rather,
commission comments and questions. >> commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: thank you. i would like to think some excellent staff members for their excellent work. first, johnny, for the update on the downtown plan, which i think was extremely well-done. some of that has been mentioned in the press, a summary of the findings that were in that report, and i think that the emphasis on the fact that our downtown area is one of the finest in the country as far as being dense,...
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commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: thank you. i have a lot of concerns, but i will go into the specific concern that the appropriate time. but i do have some questions about some of the issues that were raised on the neg dec. the first issue is the fact that whether or not the comments pe riod was long enough, because of the dozens of state or federal issues, then it is supposed to be at 30-day period. i do not know of legal counsel or someone can comment on that, because it is on state highway. we did hear that hud did not contribute any money to it, but they were not able to do a review. i am not sure about that or not. the historical aspects, oliver russo is the architect. very good architect, did interior patio's. i do not think that there's a lot of disturbance to the structure that would change it historically, so i do not know that that is the ballot, nor do i agree with the concerns about the noise or the geotechnical. however, what was brought -- what was brought up is troubling. it seems like, from my reading of the ana
commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: thank you. i have a lot of concerns, but i will go into the specific concern that the appropriate time. but i do have some questions about some of the issues that were raised on the neg dec. the first issue is the fact that whether or not the comments pe riod was long enough, because of the dozens of state or federal issues, then it is supposed to be at 30-day period. i do not know of legal counsel or someone can comment on that, because it is on...
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commissioner antonini: ok. i think the governor was going to talk about the appropriateness of certain redevelopment. he brings us back to the alternative. he insensate more for projects within the original this -- he intends it more for projects within the original scope for redevelopment. >> my reading of the bill, there are not other reform provisions. at least as far as i can tell. maybe there are some provisions relating to actions entities must take, but i was led to believe there were no reform measures. in my reading of the bill. commissioner antonini: thank you. president olague: will staff have a written analysis of the legislation regarding demolition? >> we're working on that now. if you would like us to provide that to you. president olague: great. >> commissioners, that places us on item six, review of the past week at the board of supervisors and the historic preservation commission. president olague: we will just wait then. >> i am sorry. they did me yesterday. there were several -- they did mee
commissioner antonini: ok. i think the governor was going to talk about the appropriateness of certain redevelopment. he brings us back to the alternative. he insensate more for projects within the original this -- he intends it more for projects within the original scope for redevelopment. >> my reading of the bill, there are not other reform provisions. at least as far as i can tell. maybe there are some provisions relating to actions entities must take, but i was led to believe there...
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commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i just had a couple of questions i guess for mr. martin first. thank you for an excellent presentation and not to throw cold water on what is going to be a tremendous efrvent but the scheduling is probably determined by the america's cup authorities or do we have any input when to schedule the actual competition? >> there is a lot of leeway under the host and venue agreement and things to do to work with them to point fout there are conflicts or things to work around, but generally in their control. commissioner antonini: and the competition in the past and there have been times they haven't competed because of weather conditions and days when they don't race and we can probably do the same thing because of the fog conditions here which may be sometimes fairly prevalent in july. i wondered sometimes the period from may and june are windy, occasionally rain, more rain this year than most and the period from july 15 to labor day is the heaviest fog usually, typica
commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i just had a couple of questions i guess for mr. martin first. thank you for an excellent presentation and not to throw cold water on what is going to be a tremendous efrvent but the scheduling is probably determined by the america's cup authorities or do we have any input when to schedule the actual competition? >> there is a lot of leeway under the host and venue agreement and things to do to work with them to point fout there are conflicts...
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commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: i think this is a good project for the west side and we talked about the west side doing their part and this is a good use of some space that was very underutilized. and one other thing in regards to the project around the corner on gold mine was a deeper lot. you were able to flip those around. this is a pretty shallow lot. there's a big grade change and you have to allow so much space between the houses in the back so you really don't have that luxury here i don't think. it would be very difficult to try to design them in facing the other direction. and as far as the parking thing, i think at the price point that these are going to be, these are people who are going to have at least two cars, i would think, you know. and they're going to have the cars anyway. it's just whether we allow them to put their cars in a garage or whether we have to put them on the street. and we're competing for the market for people who might choose to buy outside of the city where
commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: i think this is a good project for the west side and we talked about the west side doing their part and this is a good use of some space that was very underutilized. and one other thing in regards to the project around the corner on gold mine was a deeper lot. you were able to flip those around. this is a pretty shallow lot. there's a big grade change and you have to allow so much space between the houses in the back so you really don't have that...
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commissioner antonini: just to clarify one of your questions, if i may. the respondents have requested the department and the commission -- >> those are separate bodies. commissioner antonini: the director will send a response, according to the grand jury penal code, and as far as the department, the commission must vote. the mayor's office will do the rhone. however, they could all be the same. -- the mayor's office will do their own. commissioner borden: in general, i have no problem with the response written here. what is very evident is they are talking about an agreement that was not at all negotiated while taking into consideration the decision. i do not feel that all the issues they are pointing out were reported to us in these hearings from the mayor's office. and also, the issues are around the rent-controlled really center around the attorney's office advice as far as what the planning commission acted on. i think the title of the report is far more inflammatory than the content. the title is "government by developer. -- "government by developer
commissioner antonini: just to clarify one of your questions, if i may. the respondents have requested the department and the commission -- >> those are separate bodies. commissioner antonini: the director will send a response, according to the grand jury penal code, and as far as the department, the commission must vote. the mayor's office will do the rhone. however, they could all be the same. -- the mayor's office will do their own. commissioner borden: in general, i have no problem...
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president olague commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: there was a really good article in the sunday's "examiner," and it analyzes why many families are leaving san francisco. you think gabriels when it was the largest school west of the mississippi. and what we found were people with families are not far away in the san mateo county and marin county. the pacific has a lot of previous residence for the sunset. what is interesting is he talks about many of these same issues we talk about here all the time -- difficulty with condo conversions for your own use, difficulty getting unit mergers. of course, the school system. it is not a planning issue or has a relationship to a. -- relationship to it. so, very interesting that you have hit upon these things. i think there are a lot of reasons, although we always talk about cost. cost is a factor. these residents in san mateo county are paying just as much. they can get housing with conditions that are more acceptable to their families. we have to look at the process, wha
president olague commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: there was a really good article in the sunday's "examiner," and it analyzes why many families are leaving san francisco. you think gabriels when it was the largest school west of the mississippi. and what we found were people with families are not far away in the san mateo county and marin county. the pacific has a lot of previous residence for the sunset. what is interesting is he talks about many of these same issues we...
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commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i agree with the project sponsor for a few reasons. i did a little math. what you come up with with the four structures on 121 foot frontage is about 33 feet which gives you the latitude to really make nice living spaces. i mean, victorians and other city parcels are often 25-foot frontages but it really limits what you can do and you're into a design, interior design that is -- especially with multifloors, and this would actually bring us to a 20-foot frontage for each of these if i did the math right which is extremely small. and thrls is a really big demand for larger, new homes in san francisco. i've talked to a lot of realtors and of course it's not going to be cheap but there are people who afford to pay for this and they would rather live in san francisco than somewhere on the peninsula or outside san francisco and marin but there isn't a big stock of these homes and buying an older home is a lot more expensive proposition because you buy the older home and have to pay a lot for that and put a lot of money into upgrading a 1925
commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i agree with the project sponsor for a few reasons. i did a little math. what you come up with with the four structures on 121 foot frontage is about 33 feet which gives you the latitude to really make nice living spaces. i mean, victorians and other city parcels are often 25-foot frontages but it really limits what you can do and you're into a design, interior design that is -- especially with multifloors, and this would actually bring us to a...
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commissioner antonini?sioner antonini: maybe you could go over that one more time for just -- or maybe i can ask you some questions and see if i have it, because there have been modifications from the policy. so now we're considering before and after collectively, is that right, on the policy? >> on the second portion of the policy. commissioner antonini: portion two was moving from fee to would apply regardless. >> correct. commissioner antonini: we'll allow the z.a. to do that which makes sense and first part was go from rental to fee and that's different if it's before january 24, 2011, or after. you have to do it after. >> right. commissioner antonini: and you're allowed to do that movement before. >> that's what this policy does. commissioner antonini: got it. i move to approve, i guess, or recommend, unless there's any discussion. vice president miguel: i'll second that vice president miguel: on the motion to adopt the$,$ policy, commissioners -- [roll call vote motion passed unanimously] vice presid
commissioner antonini?sioner antonini: maybe you could go over that one more time for just -- or maybe i can ask you some questions and see if i have it, because there have been modifications from the policy. so now we're considering before and after collectively, is that right, on the policy? >> on the second portion of the policy. commissioner antonini: portion two was moving from fee to would apply regardless. >> correct. commissioner antonini: we'll allow the z.a. to do that...
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commissioner antonini: vote to approve. commissioner borden: second. >> commissioners, on that motion to approve -- [roll call vote] so moved. commissioners, that's passes unanimously 4-0. chair miguel: thank you. >> it is big. >> commissioners, this places us on item 11a. 11b, 11c, all for 3020 laguna sereet. >> commissioners, this project is located in an rh-2 zoning district. the project proposes to demolish the existing two-story single family residence and construct a four-story building. i should note the amount of parking will be limited to one parking space. currently it is 0. no additional request for discretionary review has been filed by members of the public. at this time, and additional drilling unit provides a net gain of three bedrooms and -- an additional swelling unit provides a net gain of three bedrooms. staff recommends we do not take discretionary review and approve the demolition. there are various is being requested for this project. at this time, i will be available to answer any questions. thank you
commissioner antonini: vote to approve. commissioner borden: second. >> commissioners, on that motion to approve -- [roll call vote] so moved. commissioners, that's passes unanimously 4-0. chair miguel: thank you. >> it is big. >> commissioners, this places us on item 11a. 11b, 11c, all for 3020 laguna sereet. >> commissioners, this project is located in an rh-2 zoning district. the project proposes to demolish the existing two-story single family residence and construct...
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. >> president olague: commissioner antonini? >> commissioner antonini: what was talked about earlier, a formula retail, the fact this is formula retail. it is the type that people like a lot. they go specifically to target and leave san francisco, taking their dollars and employment and taxes with them to other places. people will do this if we do not put it here. it will be somewhere else and people will commute to it. this is long overdue. it sounds like a great site. as was also pointed out, everyday clothing is unavailable in san francisco except for downtown or stonestown. just for everyday needs, it is hard to pull into summer and by these types of things and this will establish a third site where you can purchase these types of things. architecturally, i think you are doing a lot of the right things. i disagree with the other commissioners. you have to work with staff to make it appropriate. international style and midcentury modern are sort of euphemisms for funky 1950's architecture which is what this is. this year's ho
. >> president olague: commissioner antonini? >> commissioner antonini: what was talked about earlier, a formula retail, the fact this is formula retail. it is the type that people like a lot. they go specifically to target and leave san francisco, taking their dollars and employment and taxes with them to other places. people will do this if we do not put it here. it will be somewhere else and people will commute to it. this is long overdue. it sounds like a great site. as was also...
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commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: no. >> commissioner fong. commissioner fong: aye. >> commissioner moore. commissioner moore: aye. >> commissioner sugaya. aye. >> so moved, commissioners. that motion passes 5-1. president olague: we're going to take a 20-minute recess. [planning commission in recess.]
commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: no. >> commissioner fong. commissioner fong: aye. >> commissioner moore. commissioner moore: aye. >> commissioner sugaya. aye. >> so moved, commissioners. that motion passes 5-1. president olague: we're going to take a 20-minute recess. [planning commission in recess.]
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commissioner antonini: i am sorry. approved demo and new construction. >> on that motion not today dr -- commissoner moore: in r-2 zoning, are we asking for three parking spaces? >> the parking is 1 per dwelling units, so the parking spaces for the but units does meet the requirements for the zoning code. commissoner moore: we are seeing it is a large family home and that is the reason we want to add that parking space? >> they are allowed to have up to three parking spaces, yes. commissoner moore: you can be circling around the block for five hours and not find anything. i appreciate the explanation. is there anything else you wanted to add? >> the way it is shown on the ground floor plan, there are three cars in the garage. as the planning code is written, two additional spaces are required. the planning code has been amended to allow a 110 space, so technically this could be counted as a two-car garage. >> but they part individually? commissoner moore: we are just making room. so if you had smart cars, you would be
commissioner antonini: i am sorry. approved demo and new construction. >> on that motion not today dr -- commissoner moore: in r-2 zoning, are we asking for three parking spaces? >> the parking is 1 per dwelling units, so the parking spaces for the but units does meet the requirements for the zoning code. commissoner moore: we are seeing it is a large family home and that is the reason we want to add that parking space? >> they are allowed to have up to three parking spaces,...
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commissioner antonini. so moved. those motions pass unanimously 5-0. >> president olague: we're taking a brief 10 minute recess.
commissioner antonini. so moved. those motions pass unanimously 5-0. >> president olague: we're taking a brief 10 minute recess.
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commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i have known an individual who has gone to the nursing program, and it seems to be excellent. i am glad to hear they are enlarging their sentences go presence, to make their second largest campus in terms of square footage, after that of oakland. perhaps, you know, the have done a great job, because there is a shortage of nursing programs and a big demand. perhaps, i hope that institutions like samuel merritt and others consider things like dental hygiene, which we also have a shortage of and not enough programs. that is a conversation for another day, but it is definitely a need, and there is a demand for the services of many of the training that this institution provides. so that is very important and is something that has job opportunities at the end of it. president olague: closing the hearing. >> this places us on item 10, and informational item on formula retail. >> good afternoon. i am part of the department staff. this is an informational presentation yo
commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i have known an individual who has gone to the nursing program, and it seems to be excellent. i am glad to hear they are enlarging their sentences go presence, to make their second largest campus in terms of square footage, after that of oakland. perhaps, you know, the have done a great job, because there is a shortage of nursing programs and a big demand. perhaps, i hope that institutions like samuel merritt and others consider things like dental...
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president olague: commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: i am supportive but stheefed email i think from one of the residents from the building you're putting them on. and i did respond and unfortunately wasn't able to be at the hearing to understand there are not the risks he attributes to, you know, the antennas, i'm not sure exactly where his unit is but i'm supportive and certainly can tell you on the night the giants won the world series it took about an hour to get through to three other family members who were all not near land mines and eventually hooked up and were able to enjoy the evening, but it was a high demand night and they weren't even playing the game in san francisco. everybody was on the cell phones. >> exactly, exactly. we ran into that at the civic center area as well. during the parade where our capacity is very limited in civic center. president olague: commissioner fong? commissioner fong: motion to approve. >> second. >> on that motion, commissioners, to approve with conditions commissioner a
president olague: commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: i am supportive but stheefed email i think from one of the residents from the building you're putting them on. and i did respond and unfortunately wasn't able to be at the hearing to understand there are not the risks he attributes to, you know, the antennas, i'm not sure exactly where his unit is but i'm supportive and certainly can tell you on the night the giants won the world series it took about an hour to get through to three...
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commissioners moore, sugaya, and antonini commented directly on the aesthetic. they thought that it didn't fit the neighborhood very well and that we need to address what it looked like. this is the result that we came up with. we now feel that it is sympathetic to the block and it is no longer loud or obnoxiously different. the new roof that is actually at the front actually serves a purpose. it's not a false roof with no intent. since we have shrunk our floor space, we actually had to move utilities and furnace into that space at the front of the house. that was due to the effort of trying to pull back the third and the fourth floors. we had to put it somewhere. i did -- commissioner sugaya was talking quite a bit about an effort to lower the building. i consulted with the structural engineer and licensed arborist, showed him our problem, the monterey sigh press being the issue and both reports in your packet, both recommend we do not excavate. we were able to lower the building which i think is
commissioners moore, sugaya, and antonini commented directly on the aesthetic. they thought that it didn't fit the neighborhood very well and that we need to address what it looked like. this is the result that we came up with. we now feel that it is sympathetic to the block and it is no longer loud or obnoxiously different. the new roof that is actually at the front actually serves a purpose. it's not a false roof with no intent. since we have shrunk our floor space, we actually had to move...
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commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. commissioner miguel: aye. president olague: aye. >> so moved. it passes unanimously 5-0. you are on item 16. request for a conditional use authorization. commissioner moore: would you call it by name please? >> mycology's. -- my apologies. president olague: is a staff person available? ok, great. >> the afternoon, commissioners. it before you is a request for a conditional use authorization to allow wireless transmission facility consisting of no equipment cabinets operated by metro pcs. the proposed project complies with the requirement of the planning cut and is consistent with the 1996 facility guidelines. the proposed location is a preferred site for wireless transmission and it is the location preference. the project's sponsors comply with all of the strategic requirements. including holding a community outreach meeting within 500 feet of the proposed location. it will consist of maintaining a completely -- it is a service that is in demand for public goods. from the proposed fac
commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. commissioner miguel: aye. president olague: aye. >> so moved. it passes unanimously 5-0. you are on item 16. request for a conditional use authorization. commissioner moore: would you call it by name please? >> mycology's. -- my apologies. president olague: is a staff person available? ok, great. >> the afternoon, commissioners. it before you is a request for a conditional use authorization to allow...
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commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. commissioner miguel: aye. president olague: aye. >> so moved. it passes unanimously 5-0. that places you on item 15. request for a conditional use authorization. >> we're presenting on behalf of sarah. the request is for a conditional use authorization to allow the installation of nine panel antennas and associated equipment cabinets on the roof of the city owned for story public parking garage that contains a post office in the ground floor. the property is a through lot honda north. it is located to the west end of a commercial real-estate company located to the east. with the child development center, it is located approximately half a block to the southeast. the antenna would be constructed about the existing elevator penthouse to a height of approximately fit -- 60 feet above grade. to approve the conditional quality, it would be a screen of synthetic material that is radiofrequency transparent. the maximum dimensions of the proposed antenna are approximately 4 feet 3 inches high
commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. commissioner miguel: aye. president olague: aye. >> so moved. it passes unanimously 5-0. that places you on item 15. request for a conditional use authorization. >> we're presenting on behalf of sarah. the request is for a conditional use authorization to allow the installation of nine panel antennas and associated equipment cabinets on the roof of the city owned for story public parking garage that...
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-- antonini? >> aye. >> moore? >> no. >> it passes 4-1, commissioners. it places you on your final regular-calendared item. item 20, case 200.618 e. the adams street project. public hearing on the draft environmental impact report. >> good evening. i am in the planning department's staff. this is the henry adams street project. the purpose of today's hearing is to take public co+ completion of the draft e.i.r. there is no approval action requested at this time. the project consists of a couple of sites and the subject property at 801 brannan and 1 henry adams street, founded by division, alameda, in the city square neighborhood. this would include the demolition of the three existing commercial and industrial buildings at henry adams. this would include new construction of some -- three mixed use residential buildings as well as two mixed use of buildings. there be 824 dwelling units, with 54,594 square feet of retail. all the buildings would be 68 feet tall and are within the urban mixed use district. this will be dedicated to the city in partial fulfil
-- antonini? >> aye. >> moore? >> no. >> it passes 4-1, commissioners. it places you on your final regular-calendared item. item 20, case 200.618 e. the adams street project. public hearing on the draft environmental impact report. >> good evening. i am in the planning department's staff. this is the henry adams street project. the purpose of today's hearing is to take public co+ completion of the draft e.i.r. there is no approval action requested at this time. the...
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. >> president olague: commissioner antonini? >> commissioner antonini: this is not necessarily about petco, we are about of peace -- a piece of legislation. i agree. there are a couple of things, you mentioned something about the restaurant part of this which -- something about amendments to the general plan because we're at too high a level already if we were allowing to go by cu. >> the recommendation before you is meant to say that if the commission feels that 30% threshold as put forward by the supervisor, if you feel that threshold is correct, we should look at amending the general plan. the threshold prefers to a 20% in 25. at 20% you should take a hard look at proposals because there might be an overconcentration issue and that 25% and greater, we should not permit those uses. the proposal from the department is to not use those -- the 30% threshold and the supervisor described that he is amenable to making modifications to remove that threshold. and it is the general plan -- if you wanted to explore that issue, staff wou
. >> president olague: commissioner antonini? >> commissioner antonini: this is not necessarily about petco, we are about of peace -- a piece of legislation. i agree. there are a couple of things, you mentioned something about the restaurant part of this which -- something about amendments to the general plan because we're at too high a level already if we were allowing to go by cu. >> the recommendation before you is meant to say that if the commission feels that 30%...
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commissioner antonini: i also am very much in favor of this project. i will also urge the sponsor to work with the adjacent neighborhood to see what we can do to help make their signage visible or maybe make some different signage visible. i did appreciate architect baker and the project sponsors coming by to show me this a while back. it is a little bit taller than some of the other things. i think if we could do something at the top of it, i like the articulation, if it had a more definite finish on the top. to work with staff, i think it would blend in a little bit more. but everything else looks good. commissioner sugaya: just a quick question to the adjacent property owner. where was your sign previous to this building design? >> the signage is basically - it is on grove street and half with to our property line, as far as the business is concerned. if you are looking from our property line from your perspective right now, our line of sight on grove street is that way, and goff coming down that way. we have existing trees and trees that will come
commissioner antonini: i also am very much in favor of this project. i will also urge the sponsor to work with the adjacent neighborhood to see what we can do to help make their signage visible or maybe make some different signage visible. i did appreciate architect baker and the project sponsors coming by to show me this a while back. it is a little bit taller than some of the other things. i think if we could do something at the top of it, i like the articulation, if it had a more definite...
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commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: thank you. in the staff report, it was noted, the commission, and adult thing it rises to the -- i don't think it rises to the level of taking discretionary review for the following reasons. the increase, 4 foot 6 inches, as told by the architect and shows and renderings we have on this plan basically raise the entire house is enough to make that a doorway entrance from a front, and that is the 4 foot 6 inch increase. there is a slightly higher area on what is referred to as a tower, but it is just an element on the corner that is architecturally very nice because it sets it apart. i am not sure if it is 2 feet higher or not. even if it were, i don't think it is significant and all he has really done is brought out the additional third floor so you have the usage of the area where it was never a full floor. there were a lot of meetings, as evidenced by the testimony, where it started out much larger, and i think that would have been appropriate if it was that height. this is a height that is app
commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: thank you. in the staff report, it was noted, the commission, and adult thing it rises to the -- i don't think it rises to the level of taking discretionary review for the following reasons. the increase, 4 foot 6 inches, as told by the architect and shows and renderings we have on this plan basically raise the entire house is enough to make that a doorway entrance from a front, and that is the 4 foot 6 inch increase. there is a slightly higher area...
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commissioner antonini: that is good. very supportive and need a little more activity in some of the places and it will help them to be more competitive as some of the restaurants and establishments. >> i appreciate you saying that. we had vetted this quite a bit with folks out there who seem to be some few advocates in keeping the way to prohibit this legislation's reach, but once they heard, once others had heard that, expotentiallily more people came out of the woodwork to say we absolutely want this antonini: thank you very much.ini: thank you president olague: commissioner sugaya. commissioner sugaya: i will take myself out. i have something to ask ms. hayward, but not in public. olague i support it also. i remember in the 80's -- even in the 80's and this is just -- i guess i am really dating myself now. but you could go anywhere and listen to live music and chris isaac would play for $5 at the night break was the name of the club. you would go to 11th street and listen to bands at that corner -- the paradise lounge
commissioner antonini: that is good. very supportive and need a little more activity in some of the places and it will help them to be more competitive as some of the restaurants and establishments. >> i appreciate you saying that. we had vetted this quite a bit with folks out there who seem to be some few advocates in keeping the way to prohibit this legislation's reach, but once they heard, once others had heard that, expotentiallily more people came out of the woodwork to say we...
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president olague: commissioner antonini?oner antonini: taking the different parts of your legislation, it's curious but let me go over them. the increased height of the ground floor, we know it can't be part of the legislation now because of the time but that sounds reasonable to me and certainly the idea of conditional use for additional eating and drinking establishments both outer and inner clement are really good tools because i think it's not a question of -- you want to the tailor this to the neighborhoods so that's a good thing and the other thing is geary fast food with new definition, supportive. i have a problem with any formula retail bans, particularly one to a specific industry and in general i don't support it in many neighborhoods. we had that issue before us in the mission valencia area. fortunately, we continued with conditional use which has served commissioners will be just as thoughtful as we are. their decisions may reflect changing values but that's what happens as the city changes and neighborhoods cha
president olague: commissioner antonini?oner antonini: taking the different parts of your legislation, it's curious but let me go over them. the increased height of the ground floor, we know it can't be part of the legislation now because of the time but that sounds reasonable to me and certainly the idea of conditional use for additional eating and drinking establishments both outer and inner clement are really good tools because i think it's not a question of -- you want to the tailor this to...
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commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i had a question for peter albert, i saw him here, and it is a transportation question and we have heard talk about flight extension which i would hope would be in place by the time of this because we just had a discussion about the viewing areas in the marina green and bringing people through the tunnel and with the rest of the embarcadero area and the e-line and the extension to the south waterfront. and i don't know if that is a possibility or even have enough cars to get that finished and if you don't have enough streetcars to run the metro cars and i don't know if this is possible. >> peter albert, the transportation plan, and the first question is about the extension and we are managing that with the government and the projections are that probably wouldn't be finished and the challenge of all this is to pull the transportation plan together that works for 2012 and as mike said, 2012 gives us a chance to pilot and test things out for 2013. and if the money
commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: i had a question for peter albert, i saw him here, and it is a transportation question and we have heard talk about flight extension which i would hope would be in place by the time of this because we just had a discussion about the viewing areas in the marina green and bringing people through the tunnel and with the rest of the embarcadero area and the e-line and the extension to the south waterfront. and i don't know if that is a possibility or...
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. >> on that motion, commissioners, to approve with conditions, commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner fong? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner miguel? >> aye. >> and commissioner olague: aye. >> the motion passes unanimously 6-0. president olague: sorry about that. we couldn't locate staff and you were probably in the back and why we took them out of order. i want to apologize for project sponsor for that. >> commissioners, we'll be jumping back to item 12, case 2011.0208-c at 273021st street, request for conditional use authorization. >> good evening, president olague and members of the commission. you have before you a request for a conditional use authorization to add other entertainment to an existing l.c.u. authorized as a bar in an rm-1 zoning district. currently the bar is authorized to remain open until 2:00 a.m. staff recommends approval with conditions, and the basis for this recommendation is that it promotes a continued operation of an established locally owned and operated business which contribu
. >> on that motion, commissioners, to approve with conditions, commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner fong? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner miguel? >> aye. >> and commissioner olague: aye. >> the motion passes unanimously 6-0. president olague: sorry about that. we couldn't locate staff and you were probably in the back and why we took them out of order. i...
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commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: well, thank you. i think this is a good concept, wrong site. i think it's kind of, unfortunately, maybe a microcosm of what's happening in san francisco and one of the reasons we have budgetary problems is because we don't invest our funds wisely. it was really shocking to see that the condos across the street were built for $285 per square foot, and this is taking $1,120 per square foot. now, of course, when you take an older structure and you have to retrofit it, it's more expensive. we all realize that. so perhaps we should find a site that we can demo a building and build new, and it would be less expensive, like perhaps the bridge hotel across the street, which would be great and would have solved a lot of problems. so this is kind of something that i hope -- maybe it explains some of our budgetary problems. we have the use the funds more efficiently. instead of building 25 units for 25 challenged individuals, we can build 100, because it sounds like it's costing us about four times what it costs
commissioner antonini. commissioner antonini: well, thank you. i think this is a good concept, wrong site. i think it's kind of, unfortunately, maybe a microcosm of what's happening in san francisco and one of the reasons we have budgetary problems is because we don't invest our funds wisely. it was really shocking to see that the condos across the street were built for $285 per square foot, and this is taking $1,120 per square foot. now, of course, when you take an older structure and you have...
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commissioner antonini: i disagree with commissoner moore. i think this is fine.sponse by the planning department on behalf of the commission is, of course, very opprobrious. what we always do when appeals and made to the board of supervisors or when action has to take place, there the department talks to the commission. this is sort of the same thing. we are one in the same on this type of thing. while it is a legal requirement we make a response to the grand jury, i think this issue is behind us now. as long as their response is appropriate and accurate, i do not think we need to spend more time on it. i would move to approve the draft. >> i would second that. >>commissioner borden: i would like to make a friendly amendment to that then. i do not have an issue with the findings. i would like to change or add the text in the third paragraph down were in talks to the response. the hearing, blah, blah, blah. long-term projections, etc. in that paragraph, i would like to make the statement, you know, all commissioners know, all commissioners expressed concern about
commissioner antonini: i disagree with commissoner moore. i think this is fine.sponse by the planning department on behalf of the commission is, of course, very opprobrious. what we always do when appeals and made to the board of supervisors or when action has to take place, there the department talks to the commission. this is sort of the same thing. we are one in the same on this type of thing. while it is a legal requirement we make a response to the grand jury, i think this issue is behind...
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commissioner antonini: thank you for your comments. i wanted to comment on those things that i did hear that had relationships to the eir, questions that need be answered. it may be something that the fifth is an analyzed completely, those entrances and if they are adequately of about. there are questions about the adequacy of the traffic analysis. there were a lot of comments on the type of housing. there are questions about the recreational uses of the club. it would be open to residents. there are examples of that. the water displacement issue is one that is spoken to and it is mentioned as an impact. the analysis takes into account all the possibilities that might occur because of the -- and that is probably about it on things that relate to the eir itself. commissioner sugaya: i will probably submit stuff and writing. -- in writing. one of the deficiencies, it could be done with respect to the announcements, and the that we get is a photograph and superimposes a building. it seems to me that it is awfully static. the view is alrea
commissioner antonini: thank you for your comments. i wanted to comment on those things that i did hear that had relationships to the eir, questions that need be answered. it may be something that the fifth is an analyzed completely, those entrances and if they are adequately of about. there are questions about the adequacy of the traffic analysis. there were a lot of comments on the type of housing. there are questions about the recreational uses of the club. it would be open to residents....