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commissioner antonini. >> thank you. i read in interest about the story i think the chairperson of yahoo that ask employees not work from home anywhere and in the future go to their campus to work, and being in the line of work i am it's pretty impossible for someone to work from home so i can't comment on -- unless they're equipped and have the patients go to the homes. i can't comment on tech businesses but seems to me in a creative type of atmosphere you would not as much interaction for employees face-to-face and you can multi-task and network and do a lot of things that aren't easy to did if you're at different locations and the other thing i would suggest being a san francisco resident and having a business here would be as we know many of the employees at these companies are san francisco residents and have to commute to the campuses and i think bee see the results of these with the buss and other things going through the city, but it might be wise for some of the companies, and i think we're seeing more of it to
commissioner antonini. >> thank you. i read in interest about the story i think the chairperson of yahoo that ask employees not work from home anywhere and in the future go to their campus to work, and being in the line of work i am it's pretty impossible for someone to work from home so i can't comment on -- unless they're equipped and have the patients go to the homes. i can't comment on tech businesses but seems to me in a creative type of atmosphere you would not as much interaction...
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we drafted a motion for your review in the packets and i believe commissioner antonini wanted this off of consent so i leave it to you. >> okay. public comment on this item? you can leave that on the bench there. >> my name is jerry wolf. i am here again today to talk about what is proposed use of the property for new store but specifically i was here last time to talk about kate street, the alley that i own a property on and we were concerned that orchard would use that as the sole means for freight loading and i am here representing two of my neighbors and couldn't be here because of the short notice . they own the building at the end of the block and i own the other one and we own the last 150 feet of the street. in the last hour i talked to the gentleman from orchard and they made a concession that will change my speech now. we have been negotiating for the last three weeks and reach out to us as members of the community and asking them not to use the loading now and corporate said they will accept that and remove the door on kate street and move back over to the parking lot where
we drafted a motion for your review in the packets and i believe commissioner antonini wanted this off of consent so i leave it to you. >> okay. public comment on this item? you can leave that on the bench there. >> my name is jerry wolf. i am here again today to talk about what is proposed use of the property for new store but specifically i was here last time to talk about kate street, the alley that i own a property on and we were concerned that orchard would use that as the sole...
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that's i didn't am supportive and i will be with commissioner antonini and vote against the motion to deny. commissioner moore. >> i think nobody said that having formula retail disapproved in one location doesn't mean they can't find other appropriate sites and the proper support from the surrounding community and businesses that stand in front of us and present a case whether it's possible. this commission has approved a number of formula retail uses [inaudible] challenged to do so but it's a question how do you deliver a project and i wanted to add that further exemplifying what you said. >> thank you. commissioner hillis. >> yeah, just to clarify my view. it's both location and use. i don't think this is a bad location for formula retail. there is formula retail around there. there is the ninth street complex that has a couple of formula retail. i think the location coupled with the use and hardware stores have been historically difficult. to commissioner . antonini's point and i think hardware has a tougher battle in the city than other uses like clothing so i just want to mentio
that's i didn't am supportive and i will be with commissioner antonini and vote against the motion to deny. commissioner moore. >> i think nobody said that having formula retail disapproved in one location doesn't mean they can't find other appropriate sites and the proper support from the surrounding community and businesses that stand in front of us and present a case whether it's possible. this commission has approved a number of formula retail uses [inaudible] challenged to do so but...
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it's at least on record. >> commissioner antonini. >> so, i had a motion to take dr. i didn't hear a second yet. >> i'll second. >> okay. >> commissioner antonini, would you be so kind to repeat your motion? >> my motion is to take dr and make the project become code compliant by narrowing the extent of the, i would think it's the living room to bring it into conformance. >> [speaker not understood]. >> modify the fourth floor addition so it complies with the rear yard requirement. >> and continue to work with staff on design to make it more contextual. >> do you still second that? >> yes. >> commissioner hillis, anything else? okay. >> commissioners, on that motion to take dr and modify the addition on the fourth floor to comply with the rear yard requirement and to continue working with staff on design, commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? excuse me. commissioner hillis. >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner wu. >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioners, that motion
it's at least on record. >> commissioner antonini. >> so, i had a motion to take dr. i didn't hear a second yet. >> i'll second. >> okay. >> commissioner antonini, would you be so kind to repeat your motion? >> my motion is to take dr and make the project become code compliant by narrowing the extent of the, i would think it's the living room to bring it into conformance. >> [speaker not understood]. >> modify the fourth floor addition so it...
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. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah, i would go along with what commissioner hillis was talking about. we would take dr. we would bring, i guess it's the living room back, although the rooms could be reconfigured to the conforming line. and then also we would try to work with the architect and work with staff about the style to make it kind of blend in a little bit more, even though nobody really see it much from the street. if it fits a little bit more with the building, it's more contextual. that would be my motion, to -- to take dr with those changes. or that change, the other is working with staff. >> commissioner sugaya, i think i accidentally -- >> no, no. >> okay. commissioner moore. >> mr. sanchez, [speaker not understood], could you explain to us in what form we are protecting the rent controlled units? construction will require that the tenants move out. this building has three empty units and three rent controlled units, and once the unit is empty, once the building is completed, they would be going to market at regular rate, is that correct? >> there are certain protection
. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah, i would go along with what commissioner hillis was talking about. we would take dr. we would bring, i guess it's the living room back, although the rooms could be reconfigured to the conforming line. and then also we would try to work with the architect and work with staff about the style to make it kind of blend in a little bit more, even though nobody really see it much from the street. if it fits a little bit more with the building, it's more...
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commissioner antonini? >> that was very interesting, including the comments from the public. i think in terms of what percentage of the new job growth would be office and not a lot depends on the definition, my interpretation is tech businesses cultural, education business, even some of the management phases of retail, would be considered office. somebody with basically is what we define as being in a space where they are mostly working at a desk as opposed to or a lap top as opposed to someone who was selling a piece of merchandise or working on a car. that is my interpretation of why the number is so high. >> commissioner antonini, you are correct, generally looking at the numbers and we would be happy to give you a memo that would explain the methodology, and by sector, about 104 of those, 104,000 of those are bisector office jobs but about 40 percent of the jobs are in-office building and 27 percent of the retail jobs are jobs that happen in office jobs and 26 percent of the cultural institutional jobs are jobs that happen in the office buildings and that is where you get
commissioner antonini? >> that was very interesting, including the comments from the public. i think in terms of what percentage of the new job growth would be office and not a lot depends on the definition, my interpretation is tech businesses cultural, education business, even some of the management phases of retail, would be considered office. somebody with basically is what we define as being in a space where they are mostly working at a desk as opposed to or a lap top as opposed to...
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commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? i'm sorry. commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> i just want to clarify the public hearing is closed? >> yes. >> aye. >> well, it will be an agendized item. we have to take public comment if someone chooses, but we'll be placing it under consent. >> we'll change that in the rules. >> i don't think you can unless you can change the sunshine ordinance. >> the board of appeals does president do that. >> that was aye, commissioner sugaya? thank you. commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioners. that motion passes unanimously 6 to 0 and places you under public comment. i have no speaker cards. >> is there any public comment this evening? if not, commissioner moore, you had -- >> the dr applicant was trying to add a comment when i talked about the rear cottage. they had an agreement [speaker not understood]. perhaps that could be communicated to mr. smith so that it is indeed properly put to record. >> okay. >> thank you. >>
commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? i'm sorry. commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> i just want to clarify the public hearing is closed? >> yes. >> aye. >> well, it will be an agendized item. we have to take public comment if someone chooses, but we'll be placing it under consent. >> we'll change that in the rules. >> i don't think you can unless you can...
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antonini. aye. >> wu. >> aye. >> fong. >> aye. >> so moved. commissioners that motion passes unanimously. commissioners under item 11, for case 2.055 u for 2001 market street. >> good afternoon, adam omara from the department staff. the item before you is in-kind agreement for the market project. before we begin our staff presentation i think that supervisor weiner is here and would like to say a few words. >> please. >> good afternoon, commissioners. you will see me on the next item too. thanks for having me today. i am here today to speak in strong support of the proposed in-kind agreement relating to 2001 market and dolores. this is a much needed pedestrian upgrade for this area. it appropriately balances improved pedestrian safety with traffic flow in the area. it's a unique opportunity that we will not have gone -- will not have again to do this upgrade. i support it. we talk a lot in san francisco of improving pedestrian safety. we have a lot of great plans for different parts of the city that are sitting on the shelf collecting dust. be
antonini. aye. >> wu. >> aye. >> fong. >> aye. >> so moved. commissioners that motion passes unanimously. commissioners under item 11, for case 2.055 u for 2001 market street. >> good afternoon, adam omara from the department staff. the item before you is in-kind agreement for the market project. before we begin our staff presentation i think that supervisor weiner is here and would like to say a few words. >> please. >> good afternoon,...
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commissioner antonini. >> yeah, i just have a question for the project sponsor. maybe you could comment on some of the testimony in regards to the need for this. i do see in your preparation here that there's a huge increase in the service area after the installation, so it looks like you have documented this, but can you tell me a little bit more. >> sure. i can and then i will ask bill hammer to come up here since he conducted the studies before and after, but we do have -- we have a lot of research before we go out that we use to determine where our necessity is, and it's not just about exactly what's in that area, but it's the cell towers work off of each other so if the cell tower at dolores park is full where people admittedly have dropped calls that are testifying today that capacity is full it will draw capacity from other sites where we can move capacity. coverage we can't move but capacity we can move amongst cell antennas so we reached capacity in the other areas. we have a couple that are coming before you, but we have clearly shown in the third party
commissioner antonini. >> yeah, i just have a question for the project sponsor. maybe you could comment on some of the testimony in regards to the need for this. i do see in your preparation here that there's a huge increase in the service area after the installation, so it looks like you have documented this, but can you tell me a little bit more. >> sure. i can and then i will ask bill hammer to come up here since he conducted the studies before and after, but we do have -- we...
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. >> commissioner antonini. >> mr. baker, i like the darker one better than -- i agree with you, but how about gray? [laughter] >> cool gray city of peace and love, you know. it's something to think about -- >> [speaker not understood]. there's no lime green, i just want to say. >> anyway, we do have a lot of buildings that have a gray hinge to them. >> it's a diverse city. >> that's fine. i think i've got a couple questions on the project. first of all, i think this is a great idea for the boys and girls club. a lot of kids play a lot of games at i think l -- ingold and you can never park there. you have a chance of parking this part of the city. upper haight is a tough place to park. so, that might be better because they'll have a inchand they'll ~ gym and they'll play a lot of games there. i assume the sponsor didn't want to have parking. these are market rate units. so, i just don't -- are they for sale or rent or you haven't made a decision yet? >>> the units are for rent. >> they're for rent. >> they'll be condo
. >> commissioner antonini. >> mr. baker, i like the darker one better than -- i agree with you, but how about gray? [laughter] >> cool gray city of peace and love, you know. it's something to think about -- >> [speaker not understood]. there's no lime green, i just want to say. >> anyway, we do have a lot of buildings that have a gray hinge to them. >> it's a diverse city. >> that's fine. i think i've got a couple questions on the project. first of...
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. >> commissioner antonini. >> i am supportive but have issues or concerns that i want to bring up. dolores is a better straight going southbound. for a couple of reasons, there is a left-turn lane for ga rir -- gariro. and i am not saying that people won't use gariro but people will use dolores with more median and see where you are going. dolores was not a wide street and the idea to create a freeway. and they took away the houses on gariro and ruined what was probably a pretty nice street. that's not what is before us. we have to look at this carefully and engineer it. and i know that the department will do that. you may need a longer light off of market turning on dolores. because there probably be some back-ups that occur. as a result of people lining up to get in the whole foods lot. and on sunday's as pointed out that eliminate a lane on dolores. and i assume you separate the walkers from the traffic. because there is a left turn lane there. and it means that the walkers and bicycles if you can control them, are not crossing dolores at the left-turn arrow. that's probably a g
. >> commissioner antonini. >> i am supportive but have issues or concerns that i want to bring up. dolores is a better straight going southbound. for a couple of reasons, there is a left-turn lane for ga rir -- gariro. and i am not saying that people won't use gariro but people will use dolores with more median and see where you are going. dolores was not a wide street and the idea to create a freeway. and they took away the houses on gariro and ruined what was probably a pretty...
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. >> commissioner antonini. >> i am too are in support of the clinic and in reading over the materials and listening to the commentary it's well established that flooding is not documented there and the gas station was there and it was determined to be clean and there are site for market rate housing and just because a gas station was there as long as it's cleaned up properly and tested. one thing that i think is important is the sewer treatment plant if it's a fact that 80% of the raw sewage and 100% of the wastewater comes into that plant it's important that something be done. i understand new digesters are being put in but if that isn't enough we have to get rid of the smell from the plant is important to do in the future and follow up on that. but the important issue is the problems are going to be there such as the sewage plant and whether the wellness center is there or not and it brings the services about this in one place and many speakers said there is a problem. we identified the problem. we had put them on a waiting list for some of the services and that doesn't make sense.
. >> commissioner antonini. >> i am too are in support of the clinic and in reading over the materials and listening to the commentary it's well established that flooding is not documented there and the gas station was there and it was determined to be clean and there are site for market rate housing and just because a gas station was there as long as it's cleaned up properly and tested. one thing that i think is important is the sewer treatment plant if it's a fact that 80% of the...
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antonini. >> aye. >> borden. >> aye. >> hillis. >> aye. >> moore. >> aye. >> wu. >> aye. >> sugaya. >> aye. >> commissioner president fong. >> aye. >> that passes unanimously commissioners. >> folks i would like to remind everyone we have additional items on the calendar that we would like to get started if you don't mind leaving quietly please. >> we have housekeeping under the calendar. the request for variance must also be continued by the zoning administrator. the director of planning will act in the zoning administrator in this case. >> i will continue the variance to april 4 as well. thank you. >> commissioners at this time you have two remaining items, both informational. the first is 13, the city wide growth item informational item. >> good afternoon commissioners. john ram with department staff. >> if you will indulge me one second i forgot to mention this is bill's last day on the job. bill is retiring and i was remiss for not honoring him today. there will be other events and i ask that the commission adjourn in his honor today. as you know bill has been with the department
antonini. >> aye. >> borden. >> aye. >> hillis. >> aye. >> moore. >> aye. >> wu. >> aye. >> sugaya. >> aye. >> commissioner president fong. >> aye. >> that passes unanimously commissioners. >> folks i would like to remind everyone we have additional items on the calendar that we would like to get started if you don't mind leaving quietly please. >> we have housekeeping under the calendar. the request...
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but in any case i am leaning towards commissioner antonini's motion or mr. hillus' idea. >> let's talk about that. commissioner hillus. >> just a clarification. i more interested in the sunseting than the 100 feet very the ban. if you look at your map, the 100 feet is in essence a ban. from pine. because you have to look at lower polk from pine to o'farrell. if this map is correct, are there places that you can get a liquor license and kind of the lower polk area? >> you can. >> i just put on the overhead the image that includes the buffer of 100 feet. may be less confusing than the one that shows 300 and 100 and 150. >> okay, but the rud is just covering pine to o'farrell; right? >> the rud is from o'farrell to california. i think 100 feet prohibition would allow new permits to come in. essentially south of post and then on the side streets of polk. so it would allow. and given any existing licenses transferred to other locations within this area, or outside. that would also open up the possibility for new permits to come in. >> right. >> okay. i think the
but in any case i am leaning towards commissioner antonini's motion or mr. hillus' idea. >> let's talk about that. commissioner hillus. >> just a clarification. i more interested in the sunseting than the 100 feet very the ban. if you look at your map, the 100 feet is in essence a ban. from pine. because you have to look at lower polk from pine to o'farrell. if this map is correct, are there places that you can get a liquor license and kind of the lower polk area? >> you can....
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. >> commissioner antonini, thank you. so, commissioners, on the motion of intent to take dr and approve the project with the kitchen being moved to the front of the building and continued to next week or -- >> it would have to be two weeks. >> which would have to be april 4th because the 28th is -- >> continued to april 4th to adopt findings that would satisfy the criteria for dwelling unit removal. commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? i'm sorry. commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> i just want to clarify the public hearing is closed? >> yes. >> aye. >> well, it will be an agendized item. we have to take public comment if someone chooses, but we'll be placing it under consent. >> we'll change that in the rules. >> i don't think you can unless you can change the sunshine ordinance. >> the board of appeals does president do that. >> that was aye, commissioner sugaya? thank you. commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved,
. >> commissioner antonini, thank you. so, commissioners, on the motion of intent to take dr and approve the project with the kitchen being moved to the front of the building and continued to next week or -- >> it would have to be two weeks. >> which would have to be april 4th because the 28th is -- >> continued to april 4th to adopt findings that would satisfy the criteria for dwelling unit removal. commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? i'm...
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commissioner antonini? >> thank you, well, first we will address some of the comments from the public, i mean i think that the community includes all san francisco ans at the very least and while you certainly have to be cognoscente of the needs of those who happen to be living and working in the area at a particular time, san francisco changes over a period of time. and so we have to weigh, you know, the input in all faction of the cities as to what is most desirable here and it may not be the status quo staying as it is and we acknowledge it by this plan and so that it is not going to be a strictly industrial area and it has not been and it is a mixed use area at best and we have to plan to make it the most servicable and also to realize the benefits of this huge investment with the central subway and other transit that we are putting in there and the need for growth of office space. so trying to weigh these >> i looked at the focus group that you met on and it is a large group and a good group but it is
commissioner antonini? >> thank you, well, first we will address some of the comments from the public, i mean i think that the community includes all san francisco ans at the very least and while you certainly have to be cognoscente of the needs of those who happen to be living and working in the area at a particular time, san francisco changes over a period of time. and so we have to weigh, you know, the input in all faction of the cities as to what is most desirable here and it may not...
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i think as commissioner antonini noted, they could seek to do a dwelling unit merger or reduce the size of one or the other dwelling units. i don't think that is a good answer either. so, it's a balance here. i mean, they're trying to maximize and having a family oriented unit and that's why i'm a bit torn on this. it has been -- i'm fine with the design, fine with the fourth story, i'm fine with the addition of the garage. and those are really things that are more before you than before me on the rear yard variance. but i guess i'm a bit torn about the functionality of that layout whether it can be made compact and code compliant and achieve the programmatic goals of having family housing. that's what tears me. >> i guess that cuts to the chase. i would support taking dr where we've kind of made that code compliant so we -- would you issue a variance or even ruminate about a variance? an aspect of the design be kind of made more -- make it more contemporary and not stand out so much in the neighborhood. so, that's where i would lean on this. >> commissioner sugaya. >> yes. i guess to s
i think as commissioner antonini noted, they could seek to do a dwelling unit merger or reduce the size of one or the other dwelling units. i don't think that is a good answer either. so, it's a balance here. i mean, they're trying to maximize and having a family oriented unit and that's why i'm a bit torn on this. it has been -- i'm fine with the design, fine with the fourth story, i'm fine with the addition of the garage. and those are really things that are more before you than before me on...
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. >> commissioner antonini. >> yes. so, it's a c-e-q-a action that's defined or particular to the larger project, you know, that's the one that would be the trigger. someone just pointed out, a mere foundation repair doesn't do it if that's all they're doing, that would be the c-e-q-a. but if they're remodeling the whole house and adding three rooms, that would be the action that would have to have its own c-e-q-a negative declaration or cad ex and that would be the trigger for appeal at that time. >> yes. when an action has been taken that would essentially call into question the content of the environmental document, that's the trigger for the environmental document -- >> the larger -- the largest action that would happen would be the one that would probably trigger it because that would be what neighbors would be more concerned about more than likely the foundation repair, they wouldn't care about as long as it's done well. but the large addition is the one they really would want to know. so, that answers my question
. >> commissioner antonini. >> yes. so, it's a c-e-q-a action that's defined or particular to the larger project, you know, that's the one that would be the trigger. someone just pointed out, a mere foundation repair doesn't do it if that's all they're doing, that would be the c-e-q-a. but if they're remodeling the whole house and adding three rooms, that would be the action that would have to have its own c-e-q-a negative declaration or cad ex and that would be the trigger for...
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>> on that motion to approve with conditionses, commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioner, that motion passes unanimously 7 to 0. zoning administrator. >> the variance closed, [speaker not understood] granting requested variance off-street parking would result in the loss of on-street parking and alterations to the building which is a potential historic resource. if anyone would like a copy of the decision letter, please inform staff. >> congratulations. >> commissioners, that will place you back on item 12 for case no. 2012.1329u, california environmental quality act procedures. >> good evening, commissioners, amy rodgers planning department staff. i'm joined for this item sara jones, acting environmental review officer. before we begin our staff presentation i'd like to invite supervisor wiener up to make his remarks. >> hello again, commission
>> on that motion to approve with conditionses, commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> aye. >> commissioner hillis? >> aye. >> commissioner moore? >> aye. >> commissioner sugaya? >> aye. >> commissioner wu? >> aye. >> and commission president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, commissioner, that motion passes unanimously 7 to 0. zoning administrator. >> the variance closed, [speaker not...
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. >> commissioner antonini. >> well, thank you. my experience is somewhat similar to that of commissioner borden. i first came on the commission in november of 2002, and i was informed on january 1st of 2003 that state legislation had passed making all environmental decisions that we made appealable or those that weren't even made by us, such as some cad x's and negative declarations were appealable to the elected body in the particular county, which happens to be the board of supervisors. and all of a sudden, we were flooded with almost every single project coming under appeal on the environmental piece. and i was always confused. i said, if they're against the project, why don't they just try to block the project when the project is before us, not try to comment that the environmental document is inadequate? well, actually, there's a reason for that, because, you know, the bar is not as high because if you can get an appeal to the board of supervisors, you can accept the appeal for sick votes. whereas if you've got appeal for pro
. >> commissioner antonini. >> well, thank you. my experience is somewhat similar to that of commissioner borden. i first came on the commission in november of 2002, and i was informed on january 1st of 2003 that state legislation had passed making all environmental decisions that we made appealable or those that weren't even made by us, such as some cad x's and negative declarations were appealable to the elected body in the particular county, which happens to be the board of...
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. >> commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> no. >> hillis? >> aye. >> moore? >> no. >> sugaya. >> aye >> and president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, that motion passes 4-2. with commissioners borden and moore voting against. >> commissioners, you are now on public comment. i have no speaker cards. >> general public comment? >> and that motion, and... thank you. >> any public comment? >> seeing none, the meeting is adjourned. ?oo hi, i'm holly lee. i love cooking and you are watching quick bites. san francisco is a foodie town. we san franciscoans love our food and desserts are no exceptions. there are places that specialize in any and every dessert your heart desires, from hand made ice cream to organic cakes, artisan chocolate and cupcakes galore, the options are endless. anyone out there with a sweet tooth? then i have a great stop for you. i've been searching high and low for some great cookies and the buzz around town that anthony's are those cookies. with rave reviews like this i have to experience these cookies for myself and see what the fuss was all about
. >> commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> commissioner borden? >> no. >> hillis? >> aye. >> moore? >> no. >> sugaya. >> aye >> and president fong? >> aye. >> so moved, that motion passes 4-2. with commissioners borden and moore voting against. >> commissioners, you are now on public comment. i have no speaker cards. >> general public comment? >> and that motion, and... thank you. >> any public...
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. >> commissioner antonini? >> just, a couple of final thoughts. the whole issue that was broughting up that increasingly, that speaks to the whole trend, another thing that was brought up, is the population of san francisco, and it is always changing, and the one thing that i am optimistic about, is in the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s the family woulds live her their entire life and the children go to school here and generation after generation would stay in san francisco. and we had if there is not a tendency for people having to leave the city for work, i think that you will see more families staying and people staying through the whole generation and maybe that is optimism and cultural and economic diversety, i think that as the new jobs are created we create another economy, for support, which would address the concerns about people without college or high school educations, because you know, you have the entertainment industry, hospitality restaurants that are going to be neighborhood serving retail and all of these sorts of jobs, would be applicabl
. >> commissioner antonini? >> just, a couple of final thoughts. the whole issue that was broughting up that increasingly, that speaks to the whole trend, another thing that was brought up, is the population of san francisco, and it is always changing, and the one thing that i am optimistic about, is in the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s the family woulds live her their entire life and the children go to school here and generation after generation would stay in san francisco. and we had if...
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. >> commissioner antonini. >> yes, i would like to get some are information maybe patricia would like to come up and answer come questions. i missed some of your testimony. i am a little bit confused about the problem itself. when i am along polk street it's earlier in the day. and looks better than it used to. still has a way to go but it's getting better. i want to find
. >> commissioner antonini. >> yes, i would like to get some are information maybe patricia would like to come up and answer come questions. i missed some of your testimony. i am a little bit confused about the problem itself. when i am along polk street it's earlier in the day. and looks better than it used to. still has a way to go but it's getting better. i want to find
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. >> commissioner antonini. >> yes, i would like to get some are information maybe patricia would like to come up and answer come questions. i missed some of your testimony. i am a little bit confused about the problem itself. when i am along polk street it's earlier in the day. and looks better than it used to. still has a way to go but it's getting better. i want to find out what is going on with the late-night stuff. for example is it bridge in tunnel or are they people living in the city or people from the neighborhood? >> the polk street just like chestnut street. there are some bars that do bridge and tunnel. i think we have two. and then some bars that do the neighborhood. and then some bars that have a mix of everything. the big problem with, it isn't the bars it's more of who runs the bars. and we have had particularly coming throughout the northern station issue right now. we started a regressive way
. >> commissioner antonini. >> yes, i would like to get some are information maybe patricia would like to come up and answer come questions. i missed some of your testimony. i am a little bit confused about the problem itself. when i am along polk street it's earlier in the day. and looks better than it used to. still has a way to go but it's getting better. i want to find out what is going on with the late-night stuff. for example is it bridge in tunnel or are they people living in...
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. >> commissioner antonini? >> i know that this, discussion began with an emphasis on the need to meet our projected demand for office space. however, i think that the case can be made for including some housing along with it. for a lot of reasons. we just looked into that with transbay and we realized that for the transbay to being successful we have the office building and we have housing in there and we talked about the mid market and the many people have said, we are going to have to provide housing and have 24-hour presence for the people to be able to support the other services in the area. between the retail and things like that and there is sort of a critical mass of population that you need admittedly this is not that big. the housed through the jobs but it will make it a more viable area if we can find a happy medium and allow the housing because sometimes the mix used project is much more likely to go forward because you have got some of the costs of the office and some of the costs of the other thing
. >> commissioner antonini? >> i know that this, discussion began with an emphasis on the need to meet our projected demand for office space. however, i think that the case can be made for including some housing along with it. for a lot of reasons. we just looked into that with transbay and we realized that for the transbay to being successful we have the office building and we have housing in there and we talked about the mid market and the many people have said, we are going to...