commissioner antonini >> yeah. thank you for a very good report it's regretable that w it takes us another year realistically we may not start this until 2018 is that it. >> your optimistic schedule will have us open in 20022 or 23 this is a great opportunity the feasibility study and the environmental review in i figure out the details you can make that period more streamline so it's going to be a good opportunity. >> i hope to see it. anyway a couple of comments i think the longer than subway and break-in make sense a separate right-of-way there was a feeling as discussed in some of the sessions including the st. francis cycle you have the m and k lines that are underground somehow so makes the project more expensive and can i reflect that's something having the year of the t s r we're considering building that into the m and k underground and sort of scoped to defining the project when we learned if he wanted to get the m under 19 avenue what we have to start at the eucalyptus and what the cost analysis so we'll

commissioner antonini >> move to continue items 1, 2, 3 to the date proposed. well 4 is indefinitely >> second. >> on that motion commissioners to continue items commissioner antonini. commissioner borden. commissioner hillis. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya. commissioner fong and commissioner president wu. so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and and places you under your consent calendar your consent calendar commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests in which event the matter shall be removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. item 5 case at the 2189 custom berry land request for condominium conversion and item 6 requests for condominium conversion at south van ness item request for condominium conversion on market street rerequest for condominium conversion item 9 at the plaza zoning map amendment there are no speaker cards commissioners >> that i public comment on the consent calendar?

commissioner antonini. commissioner borden. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya. commissions fong and sxhifgs are expected to arrive commissioners, first on your calendar is the items from the evidence for continuance item one u and t the form retail is for continuance and an amendment to the planning code section 303 formula retail uses ordinance introduced by supervisor mar that proposed for continuance until july 17, 2014. i have no other matters for continuance and there are no speaker cards. are there my questions or comments on the items seeing none, public comment is closed >> commissioner moore. >> move to continue items one and 2. second >> second at about on that motion commissioner antonini. commissioner borden. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya and commissioner president wu. so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and places you under our consent may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the p

thank you. >> i'll second that motion. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. this is 3 and a half years late i was reading the planning 779 from december 2008 which were the basic modifications and one of the eyes was commissioner antonini with an extra o in his name i want to point out that misspelling it wasn't me another will commissioner antonini but i'm supportive of the motion. >> the secretary can make that change commissioners there are as motion and second recommending amendments for approval to the board of supervisors planning code, general plan and text amendments as well as amended. as well as the demonstration agreement with modifications. commissioners, on that motion >> commissioner antonini. commissioner borden. commissioner hillis. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya. commissioner fong and commissioner president wu. so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero. >> the commission will welcome planning commission regularometers for dumb. please be advised commission on matters that are within the commission's jurisdicti

commissioner antonini? >> aye. >> borden? >> aye. >> hillis? >> aye. >> fong? >> aye ft. wu? >> aye. >> that motion passes unanimously, 6-0, that will place you under commission matters, item 3, draft minutes for june 12, 2014. >> is there any public comment on the draft minutes? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner fong? >> move to approve minutes. >> second. >> on that motion to adopt the minutes for june 12, 2014, commissioner antimony, borden, hillis, moore, fong, and president wu? >> aye. >> so moved, that motion passes unanimously 6-0 and places you on item 4, commission comments and questions. >> commissioner moore? >> i would like to make a comment on the item we just approved in consent and that is the incredible transformation of value, the addition of this small one of a kind retail store has made to the building which was very controversial when we approved it here. that particular store has almost transformed the building. it amazing because all of a sudden the attention goes to

any public comment sooepdz commissioner borden. >> i move to approve. >> second and commissioner antonini>> yeah. i had a question i'm very much in support but to staff workplace the c go 3 and stones town there's no need for conditional use for formula retail i'm not sure why we need conditional use for shore plaza it's almost all formula retail. >> mr. from the staff yeah. it's a technically formula retail area and no hamburgers and yeah. according to the motion that's correct. >> commissioners there's another motion and second to approve this project with conditions. >> commissioner antonini. commissioner borden arrest commissioner hillis. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya. commissioner fong would be so kind to acknowledge you are viewing this in the executive chambers and i vote i >> and commissioner president wu. so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places you on public comment i have there are no speaker cards >> seeing none, public comment is closed and meeting adjourned. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hello and welcome to this presentation. i'm san francisco purrs

commissioner antonini. commissioner hillis. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya. commissioner fong and commissioner president wu. so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places you, mr. commission matter questions or comments commissioners, i want to follow up on the matter that was raised at last week's hearing by commissioner moore for the conditions of approval on bush street i reviewed the hearing tape and indeed the staff presenter glen did indeed read the amendment regarding this affordability exponent on the presentation i wanted to follow up with you and the viewing audience. >> thank you commissioner antonini. >> yeah. interesting article that will be pertinent for the discussion that follows and it was in the new york times on sunday june 8th dealt with affordable housing in new york city the system is different then here that's a volunteer system if the building sponsor agrees they have to provide 20 percent affordable and they get 33 percent more square footage. it appears to not be very popular because it's optional 3 tho

. >> commissioner antonini. no >> commissioner borden. >> no. that commissioner hillis. commissioner sugaya. commissioner fong >> no. president fong. no >> that motion fails 2 to 5 is there an alternative motion there is no alternative motion it will be approved in its current form. >> thank you, commissioners shall we move on to the next item it is item 15 for the next case at the 1423 ocean avenue a mandatory discretionary review on may 1st time f first, the commission continued the matter to this date by a vote of 5 to zero and commissioner antonini upper recused and commissioner antonini i recommend you request that recall again and president fong in order for you to participate in today's hearing you have to acknowledge you've reviewed the materials. >> yes. i was planning to participate pending a communication with the city attorney but there is still a little bit cloudy i'm no longer the owner of any dental practice, however, 0 over $100 to the practice an outside contractor so this is a gray area in my mind and until we get complete clarification i'm going to hav

you is there any further public comment okay seeing none, public comment is closed commissioner antonini >> yeah. i have a question an update on eastern neighborhoods that probably occurred after the eastern neighborhoods passed to the board of supervisors. if i'm reading it correctly because the builders or the shoppers have agreed to keep it as a rental property for thirty years they get 3 percent less affordable either macro is by ownership or commitment i don't understand why that's in there i want to make sure i'm reading it credible you get less vooshl rental rates >> in the zoning district in the zoning district for this property the normal affordable housing rate a 16 percent applicable in the project were, you know, utilized for sale units but in this case since the project sponsor agreed to enter into a rental incentive housing to the 16 percent affordable is reduced to 13 percent and they get a one tdr per square feet in the neighborhood impact fee as well saw i wasn't familiar with that policy i'm not sure i agree with the policy although that's the policy in place and agreed

commissioner antonini >> yeah. i have questions for the representative from at&t. many of the speakers brought up some alternatives and i don't believe they're among the ones you've analyzed like 17 hundred green and i don't know if any of those buildings would useable or close enough to fill the gap >> sure i took down 31670 green street and union street the landlords were not willing to work with us. under any price. so they are under the guidelines they're not a leased intrusive alternative and the clock tower the building across the street is exactly the same height so it would be blocked so virtually useless >> i'm looking pictures produced by at&t you may have those available their photo simulations i guess if you can bring them up fine but they're new stacks look like 38 they blend in how much of the of stacks i can certainly give those to the gentleman if i want to put those up on the screen and i'm not saying those photographs were taken from the various streets. when you view those you can see the before

. >> commissioner antonini. >> a clarification on the motion that has been made. if i understand it correctly, commission moore, we're asking project sponsor to either combine some of the individual accesses to roof or replace the stair penthouses with hatches on the -- on some of the individual ones, is that what you're asking them to do in your motion? >> you can indirectly say yes. i'm asking the architect to more successfully or minimize the impression that we're putting on the roof. >> okay. >> commissioner borden. >> i'm supportive. i wanted to know if haze and cabob might be coming back to the new space and i also -- i like the old building. i'm in support. >> commissioners, there is a motion and a second on the floor to approve with conditions including a condition to minimize the bulk on the roof skate by reducing the size of the roof top stairs using common stairs or personal hatches. on that motion, commissioner antonini. >> aye. >> hillis. >> aye. >> moore. >> aye. >> sugaya. >> aye. >> that passes 7-0. >> item 13 -- c and e at 2223 lumbar street. requ

commissioner antonini >> i have a question i'm supportive but i have a questdet doesn't specify whatever liquor licenses a 37 or 42 lastly it's in accumulation with the bona fide eating places. >> yes. >> i'll move to recommend with staff conditions. >> second. >> could i please talk through a little bit more what other entertainment my entail whether or not increase unat the end consequences. >> of entertainment use to include the recreation uses like bowling alleys and maybe skating rink we're specific xooutd the live dancing and poetry reading one has to get a entertainment permit. >> so the code specifics specific used uses within other entertainment. >> that's right. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> mr. sanchez please verify that is only for indoor uses explain that to me it would be interesting to hear that as an expansion of an indoor use correct. >> yes. however, certainly commercial entities that could be open air. >> would they come to us separately because we know of instances where large gathering in outdoor spaces have ramifications i have you could explain that

commissioner antonini. commissioner borden >> commissioner hillis. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya. commissioner fong >> commissioner president wu. so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero. >> the commission will regular hearing nor thursday, june 12, 2014. like to remind the must be of the audience to vines my mobile device. commissioners you've left off on item 15 the production and distribution and repair informational presentation. >> good afternoon, commissioners steve with the planning staff this is a great way to celebrate how far this sector has come and talk about the place in the eco system what is the distribution repair that's a term of arts that cluster a wide range of activities p is about production making things whether arts, clothes. buildings, distribution is about motorcycling things around people and utilities and mending things cars and furniture. what are some of the characteristics or p dr it can't compete that san francisco it can't afford to build new spaces the rents are not high enough to justify construction i

i appreciate you thought about the upp the upper no such >> commissioner antonini. i'll be supportive of the project sponsor working with the staff and seeing if there's a possibility but i'm not to make a motion to take dr and approve the project as currently designed with the change we drop the roof height of the what is considered the fourth floor on the area designated as the dining room down to a 11 feet external height. i'm sorry you're right 10 feet external height and that's on the third floor >> a question whether they're talking about the third or fourth the floor where the dining room is. >> and top. >> and to raise the height of the windows that are francis scott key to the north to a minimum of floor to the ceiling. >> i'm going to vote against the motion by the way, the design response we're talking about has less to do with the light and air and in terms of small property owner and the relationship to the rest of the neighborhood and so - and i also building that in terms of the design there are many ways to approach a design whether a regular residen

commissioner antonini >> yeah. i follow-up on what commissioner borden said whenever we can look at the situation existing now for unite that are inclusionary at the 12 percent by state law it probably would be good to study what could be implemented as some sort of bonus for complying and help our legislation especially, if it gets challenged by someone who didn't elect to do the bonus but they might exchange it under prop c. i had one other question i'm not sure you have the figures alter our fingertips in terms of how many units under construction for approval to be built in san francisco i'm not saying we don't need to do this but it's good looking good to look at what we have in the pipeline >> there are both 40 thousand units that are approved but 25 or so are in the 3 big project areas treasure island development authority board and park merced and the shipyard arrest there's about 6 to 7 thousand under construction and another 10 thousand in our pipeline going there to approval progress and so con sefbl abo

and commissioner antonini >> yeah. i'm looking at one of the daylight studies this shows the courtyard i need help you, see where the apartment is of laura murdock and that makes sense it shows an before and after i'm trying to figure out where the new structures are supposed to be if we can pass that down it looks like it's exactly the same before and after as far as what's there. maybe the project sponsor can answer that >> commissioner, i, answer that the reason why it looks that it is essentially the same before and after what we've determined from your analysis this is a minor shadow cast right here in the morning hours and that shadow would stop to the approximately 10:00 a.m. in the summertime and winter one p.m. i want to pout those two units are facing north already so there's absolutely in change but the other two units ms. murdock referred to they're not impacted by our project at all. that's what's happening with the light. >> so i guess when we look at the picture our project happens to be in front of the

the conversion is more dramatic for the tenants living there >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. there have been a lot of historically so long as i've been the commission we've never dealt with their rental or ownership so it gives the sponsor the ability as cycles change to modify their projects and the beacon is an example as the market became strong it chang's changed to condo and notice that of renting was dispolice department just the availability to buy it, it's not in the cod so but i am in favor and move to approve it as opponent and second. >> commissioner borden. >> i thought it was an interesting policy decision i didn't remember it coming on the other project you recommended for the dollar per year that's definitely new. in terms of this project it is important we look at the changes in the massing they've been responsible and i think the way the building has been improved it's terrible there are a lot of windows that have to be covered it's not an unusual phenomena >> commissioners a motion and second to approve with conditions. >> commissioner antonini. >> commissio

commissioner antonini >> yeah. i have questions for the architect i didn't see a picture in our presentations of the rendering there's something on the cover of the presentation that looks bizarre and it does let's go to the elevation and the person doing the rendering there's this big tree oh, much better. >> that's the one in the - >> predominantly in the neighborhood you see a lot of brick and stone and masonry we want to use natural lime stone the problem with stucco is a generic term we're trying to pull and the colors obviously we were very careful to match the colors and warm it up natural wood and to give it a little bit of a flare we wanted to ice stainless steel you don't have to paint it. >> generally it looks like the base seems to be somewhat square a that part is okay. i prefer traditional windows but there's more maintenance on those. i guess it looks generally hard to tell but i'm assuming the color with the sides. the lighter colors are the natural stone and the doors are wood we're also increasing

support it is still showing the consistentcy i'm in full support of it >> thank you commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i think as sunny pointed out this is actually going to get done many times we approve conceptual ideas that depends on the funding and we want the funding to be able to recognize a park but? is a good concept the public-private concept it's going back going to be done encouraging and it's a great idea. i am sure theirs a shared maintains it is important to make sure not only the private developer but the city do it's part to make sure it's maintained this is sometimes, the problems with projects. i like the idea of ground utilities in some neighborhoods i'll point out that many neighborhoods that already have the ground utilities have underground ugly features that make the nights ominous looking that's another idea maybe the project sponsor would eliminate the street lights or put in more energy efficient lighting that's a thought for future concepts we may be able to realize. i want to ask the project sponsor or the staff a construction time on the project not only this pa

commissioner antonini >> i have a question i'm supportive but i have a questdet doesn't specify whatever liquor licenses a 37 or 42 lastly it's in accumulation with the bona fide eating places. >> yes. >> i'll move to recommend with staff conditions. >> second. >> could i please talk through

. >> commissioner antonini. can we a men the motion to make that part. >> right, i think we'll continue to work with staff to try to craft the facade that would be to the contextual of the neighborhood but gives the architect to say the materials that will be used. >> the emphasis for me is to give the neighborhood in this particular case a little bit more ear time so they understand what's the possibility to soften the ground floor. there's no one particular way to soften the ground floor. i support what they're want to go do, but it has to be supported by those driving the car. >> so is that acceptable -- there is an amended motion. is that acceptable to the seconder? >> yes. >> commissioner antonini. >> a couple of things. i've been with my office for 45 years -- many of them were eliminated when the motel was put in in the 50s. something that speaks to the older buildings that still exist is a good thing to do. i know there's newer ones that were put in. i think there's housing un is across from the shell st

as possibly underground on 19. >> i forget when color one is existing the one that commissioner antonini is referring to say between eucalyptus and winston and near mercy high school in that location the station will be at the level of the stones town parking lot and i actually i've seen it before they used to have a legal crossing and it was dangerous so they now have a fence i've seen the students run across and it makes me cringe so this is a natural desire line. >> you caution you you're going tunnels i mean maybe this is a part of town you'll not have issues with graffiti and others things that took place there. >> i think the personal security idea is one you have to do the right maintenance and design and planning for there are examples of how to do that i think would one of the interesting opportunity we've built strong relationships with the high school and there are stations i believe the asian pacific islander street station there's tuntsdz to build that into the adjacent landowners. >> and additional considerations to the north with a couple of the lines coming in i think you

. >> commissioner antonini. >> yes. a few comments appreciate the presentation. i notice there's talk about bus rapid transit busing this area i speak against light rail if you're going to have 12 thousand hoping people and homes they'll have to get off the t and get on another bus it didn't makes sense it is a clean slate we can do whatever he want we don't have the usual problems but i also can you remember you to enclosure the possibility which having that continue out to the north through cargo and connect up with third street someone wanting to reach that area from downtown will have to go all the way to t to the end and came back the connect our so in another area we may have a problem the bridge we're going to spend a lot of money to build anothers only for business not automobiles that didn't makes sense driving through hunters point to hunters point shipyard is a long way to go to visit a neighbor and nobody will walk or take public transit or bike there are people that are older and don't have the ability and that makes it hard to get to a grocery store

. >> commissioner antonini? >> are there any plans to do anything with i guess it's the existing hospital next door which it says chinese hospital on it and try to bring that -- it's rather the exterior of that is sort of buoyant and to see if it can be improved to fit in bet were the new hospital? >> there are some plans for additional signage that were part of the conditional use approval, and we will be looking at any other modifications to be made to that building in 2017. so, after the new hospital is completed, then we'll be looking at work in that current hospital building. >> thank you, i would encourage you to do whatever you can with this one so it can work out better with the new one. >> absolutely. >> thank you for the presentation. >> commissioners, that will place us on general public comment not to exceed a period of 15 minutes, at this time, members of the public may address the commission of items that are of interest in the public that are not with respect to agenda items, with respect to the a