. >> commissioner antonini. >> i'm not completely clear on where the green zone begins and evens i'll take the commissioners comments on lombard in the advisory committee general cal hallowing affirmative action and russian hill and marina area other seats that qualify in the near future on larkin somewhere in russian all right on the calendar there are other seats available and quite a few of the sites but the other thing i would say this i think the site a probably not the rigplace for that i've had lot of e-mails received hearsay of e-mails more from the supporters from the occupants opponent the opponents put down their e-mail and addresses close to the site opponents first name in last time name. >> what an address innovate from the area i've heard a number of people proponent from the area but i'll say my impression is that there is a lot more option in the people in the neighborhood than there are proponent in the neighborhood so i think this particular group does a job a lot of friends and love people in the area that are supportive of their operation but i think that people t

commissioner antonini. >> yeah. great project in a great pollutant neighborhood we have many pollutant neighborhood from 1 time to 7th street is great from the streets further into the sunset a great area to walk around for the reasons stated and educational on beer and wine i'm very much in support. >> there is a motion and a second to approve that matter with conditions commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places you on item 12 union street this is a conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon, members of the planning commission sharon the the item before you is a conditional use authorization to establish the retail use an joe locate on union street in the vacate ground floor he commercial space with 15 hundreds secret of ground floor relevance from the paparazzi the neighborhood xherlt district the proposal and tenant improve

commissioner antonini, aye. hillis, aye. -that motion passes 7 to 0 and places you on item 4-commission matter consideration adoption of draft minute november 5, 2015 >> public comments on the draft minutes proposed? not seeing public comment is closed. >> prove to approve the draft minutes >> second. >> thank you commissioners on that motion to adopt the minutes for november 5, 2015. commissioner antonini, aye. hilts aye. johnson, aye. -the motion passes 7 to 0 and places you on item 5. commission comments and questions. >> commissioner antonini. >> i want to compliment commissioner richards who convened a meeting last saturday at the swedish american haul and had many stakeholders present with a variety of positions, probably 35, i don't know the exact number but in that range and it chs a good discussion and interesting prooposals brought up. i could only stay a little under 2 hours because i had to get back to my dental office to see patients but thought it was extraemly well done. >> commissioner johnson, >> i appreciat

. >> very good commissioners commissioner antonini mr. ferris commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner wu commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero. >> okay commissioners is going to take a break thank you. >> game-changer and welcome back to the sprags regular hearing for thursday, november 12, november 12, any kind. and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. for the benefit of public in case i missed in item 8 the extra public has been continued until january '58 and x at 22 and pennsylvania avenue the large project authorization has been continued until december 23rd did i say january 2016 commissioners, we left off commissioners, that places you under your on item 9 for case the candle stick presentation. >> i'm ed schneider on behalf of the blap for this department this information presentation is provided to you as a lead both amendments to the projects design for developments doc

commissioner antonini. >> yeah. great project in a great pollutant neighborhood we have many pollutant neighborhood from 1 time to 7th street is great from the streets further into the sunset a great area to walk around for the reasons stated and educational on beer and wine i'm very much in support. >> there is a motion and a second to approve that matter with conditions commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places you on item 12 union street this is a conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon, members of the planning commission sharon the the item before you is a conditional use authorization to establish the retail use an joe locate on union street in the vacate ground floor he commercial space with 15 hundreds secret of ground floor relevance from the paparazzi the neighborhood xherlt district the proposal and tenant improve

commissioner antonini. >> yeah. great project in a great pollutant neighborhood we have many pollutant neighborhood from 1 time to 7th street is great from the streets further into the sunset a great area to walk around for the reasons stated and educational on beer and wine i'm very much in support. >> there is a motion and a second to approve that matter with conditions commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and places you on item 12 union street this is a conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon, members of the planning commission sharon the the item before you is a conditional use authorization to establish the retail use an joe locate on union street in the vacate ground floor he commercial space with 15 hundreds secret of ground floor relevance from the paparazzi the neighborhood xherlt district the proposal and tenant improve

. >> commissioner antonini. >> i'll speak against the continuance i certainly understand commissioner richards interest in having less parking on site but realistically the people that rents those units or you know especially those with families are going to have a car if you have a child you'll have a karaoke about the income level isle you've got to take the kid some place it is unrealistic not to have one by one parking for families we dropped the ratio slightly on some certificate smaller units like the studios not the worst thing i'm not sure a gym or imagine in the suck transparence space is of much use you know - anyway i'm going to speak against the continuance it project has been around many, many things this is a small issue and i'm going to support it i think that is where it needs to be. >> commissioner richards says we talk out of both sides of our mouth we are a rich environment and this is absolutely like we are talk about out bossing of our mouth. >> sir, do you have a comment. >> just a couple of points of clarifications not seeking exception we're commented before ex

i assume a motion i hear a lot of. >> there is a motion and it's been seconded. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. just in keeping with that through it didn't speak to the impact fees the check list goes through the possible impacts and nun none of them are significant and is public housing logical resources and land use and mr. haney fails underneath the eastern neighborhoods pdr so that kind of answers a little bit of that i guess. >> commissioners a motion seconded to approve with conditions. >> commissioner antonini oar commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards and commissioner wu so moved, commissioners, that motion passes he unanimously 6 duo to zero commissioners that places you under our discretionary review calendar for item 15 on the case at ann district attorney street an abbreviated discretionary review. >> good evening. i'm david lindsey of department staff this is a request for discretionary review of a project that proposed vertical and horizon to a second story single-family homes on ann district attorney street between 45 and 46 av

. >> commissioner antonini. >> i think it is good i have a question about the phase for the architect they appear over the upper two floors but not frame the lower floor i mean, why not cbo down to the bottom floor. >> commissioner antonini this we explored quite a few of the options and the main reason why the bays don't because of the height clearance above the sidewalk 7 foot 8 inches of clarence and because the sidewalk slopes uphill the bay on the right-hand side or the north side of building will be blow that limit we played that option expend the two south bays one floor down didn't like that composition to be honest. >> what are the rooms on that first floor. >> their bedrooms. >> they'll be darker without the bays but, yeah i think that is you know it is contemporary i mean it is not my some kind of of architecture ensue it does the job so i'm in favor the project just a little bit unusual but i understand the reason for them extending they go above the level of roof. >> correct commissioner antonini to emphasize the height we wanted to articulate some flexibility with the co

commissioner antonini. >> yeah. have you at the podium i might ask a question there were some language thwas proposed in regards to the conditions did you have a chance to review those. >> we looking at them the one thing as i said one of the conditions is project sponsor scheduled the emotion with the attendants of the nearby school not sure but that seems to have not quite sure what it means but schooler like i said we've offered to do that as the time permits when the school is not in session i'm not sure i understand the attention by nearby schools. >> it's a little bit two word i didn't over the summer is when most of schools maybe schools that go 12 years but talking about live oak this can't be achieved the sponsor pays for the are temporary locations during the project i can't agree is that that is an open ended commenting commitment with no budget attached we will have to adhere to a very, very specific set of protocols for emotion this is where live oak was there or not because of the concern we've made th

commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i'll agree with commissioner johnson as i pointed out earlier we can continue but not move it up once it's scheduled for a particular date i think that keeping the discussion going and having turning the december date if this is continued to that date into informational if we come to the point it is not ready is the most prudent i have definitely concerns about parts of that and how it ends up being first and foremost will determine if i support it or not a lot of that could be done in the next few weeks i'll against the february motion. >> commissioner moore. >> i like to ask the planning commission we either get it right or screw up no in between this is a life or death matter once we have the change or the right action depending on how you look at it i'd like to be sure we have basically turned every stone he agree with the commissioners that the planning department is doing a good job and doing a lot of ground work the the devil is in the details we've said that many times and ple

. >> commissioner antonini a question for the project sponsor maybe staff mr. may there are passageways alongside the residential onsite ain't e onsite i believe those assess the hampering theatre that's correct and yes. >> how wide are those spaces there are ways to bring proposals or things into those spaces. >> yes. they are i believe 5 feet in width 5 and a half feet. >> yeah. that might be bringing the larger items through the front you probably could bring things along the side with that, i'm going to propose approval conditional use of this as presented by project sponsor which will include the two parks parking spaces place and the openly other 12:00 noon and closings times in the staff report ability for some sort of you don't need a kitchen by a refrigerator or some sort of headed elements that allow you to have food service you might have a truck out tolerant but space within the facility to keep the food from spoiling and make that more easily served work with the dpinlts to try to solve share they're loading space with the surveillance will be allo

commissioner antonini, i did have a question to maybe i'll ask the question first. you may have heard my voice message. as i went through page 34 you showed the history of the population of san francisco and there were a couple places where i think it is a error because it shows a population of 856,000 and the year before 845,000 which i dont remember happening and i think it is the highest population we have ever had at 845.6 in 2014. >> i did look into that and-the state department of finance-we are fortunate in california that that department does a separate count of population of all the states counties, so we have the u.s. census and then the state and typically we trust the states numbers more because the state accounts for all types of people we thipg the census misses. these are the states numbers by year and in 2008 and 09, i think these are the numbers that they reported as being the cities population. then you see it fell dramatly in 2010. we think the state captures the people who move here for job during boom times and maybe leave when the jobs go away

commissioner antonini. >> yeah.e heard from a number of people even before tonight hearing that the owners of the facility run a good operation and they must be because they have theo thousand patients that seemed hard to believe but you know but generates love revenue and made significant tricks to their credit but as was the point was made by a lot of people even a good operation shouldn't be in the wrong plays i agree with the neighbors that have spoken about the location not appropriate the larkin street who are in charge the facility across the street are in opposition the district supervisor is in opposition golden gate valley association a major association in the cal hallow area which my dental office is a member and the cal hallow association the karate facility and knowing the office my office is a mile away i know how bad lombard is the opportunity if we run a clean operation once the money is on the streets there are leave tuft i was in the bridge molt and other areas make that difficult for anyone who m

. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i have you at the podium i might ask a question there were some language thwas proposed in regards to the conditions did you have a chance to review those. >> we looking at them the one thing as i said one of the conditions is project sponsor scheduled the emotion with the attendants of the nearby school not sure but that seems to have not quite sure what it means but schooler like i said we've offered to do that as the time permits when the school is not in session i'm not sure i understand the attention by nearby schools. >> it's a little bit two word i didn't over the summer is when most of schools maybe schools that go 12 years but talking about live oak this can't be achieved the sponsor pays for the are temporary locations during the project i can't agree is that that is an open ended commenting commitment with no budget attached we will have to adhere to a very, very specific set of protocols for emotion this is where live oak was there or not because of the concern we've made

. >> commissioner antonini. >> commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places us on general public comment. >> any general public comment this evening. >> nominees a silva johnson and i've been working very hard on that for centuries and centuries and it's been you know totally the position because of my arts that i do do this is feared by a lot of people i don't think it should be as put in that category it is united states truth of my categories what we see and the possibilities and the way we put our shame and over windows that we haven't never had intense thank you - areas very thoroughly and thoughtfully that the years i have been going through things how people like to scam and how people last week to try and swindle things that has been very well panted in my subconscious we'll not take this category in our own prospects we - >> all right. any additional general public comment the meeting is adjourned thank november 4, 2015. i would like to rem

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commissioner president fong commissioner wu commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnsonmissioner moore and commissioner richards thank you, commissioners commissioners, the first item on your agenda is item for continuance item one the go affordable unit general plan amendment and

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