. >> hi, my name is antonio ortiz and i'm a union steward at c.w.a.fa and in regards to the resolution you have on number 60 and i hope that it passes. there have been layoffs at kpfa and according to our contract, it's a breach of our contract from the union's perspective and we want to have negotiations with management to talk about those issues. unfortunately we're at this point where we have to have done some grievances have been filed against management and that's where we're at and they've all been denied and now we have to go to arbitration and the union wants to work with managers to have a solution that works for everyone. unfortunately, there aren't any -- we're in good faith negotiations with the union at the moment. most of everything happening is via email and the responses we get from pacifica management is speak to our lawyers. when we have had meetings, there's been lawyers present on their end, and to our understanding that is not negotiating in good faith. that's all i have to say as a union steward. one thing i want to say, too, is