one outsider still prepared to share his observations is australian lawyer and author, antony dapiran that i do breaches the national security law. bill: he's lived here for 16 years and, before that, in beijing, chronicling the uprising and the politics of his adopted home. antony: there's a very strong sense, really, across an entire generation of hong kongers, that this is--this is their fight, it's a fight that they strongly believe in. and i'm not sure that just jailing the key leaders or even the threat of jail for people who continue to participate will be enough to entirely dissuade them, and it certainly won't win over their hearts and minds. bill: do you think the chinese government would want there to be an exodus of pro-democracy types? or would it be kind of annoyed to see them go? antony: it's long been part of the beijing playbook to force leading dissidents, even from the mainland, into exile, where they quickly lose their relevance. they lose their connection back home, their message ceases to be communicated back to within china, and they lose their potency as a thre